Rape of Hakka women, Taiwanese massacres by Japanese. Why Lee Tung Hui support Japan?

Aug 2016
232
UK london
#1
How come Taiwan and it's politicians, leaders still supports Japan so much like former president of Republic of Taiwan Lee Tung Hui says Taiwan belongs to Japan? From what I've read they also suffered a lot under the Japanese rule too ( large number of Taiwanese women, Large number of Hakka women had been raped or use as sexual slaves, and this include large massacres in Taiwan during it's colonization ). So why do Taiwanese still want friendship with Japanese people and even support Japanese people against Chinese ? It is strange how Taiwanese hate Chinese people so much because even in one occasion that I've seen were Taiwanese supporting the Indians against China in a Chinese-Indian youtube video conflict. Also in a Chinese-Japanese video conflicts a Taiwanese always states how Taiwanese hate China but love Japan.

According to this link -----> https://www.sammyboy.com/threads/40...-and-aborigines-massacred-by-japanese.240699/
(I do not not understand Chinese but I suppose this is the source since it says truth-japan-war-massacre-taiwanese )
https://taiwannext.com/truth/japan-war-massacre-taiwanese-1103.html


Taiwanese historians said during the Japanese occupation of Taiwan they killed, raped, massacred rebels.

Han Chinese death: 130,000 to 190,000 or more
Taiwan aborigine deaths: 100,000-200,000

Apparently most of the victims of Taiwan were Hakka people and Taiwanese aborigines. According to wikipedia Lee Tung Hei is a Taiwanese born and Hakka but says Japan is his motherland and supports Japan. Also Taiwanese were ruled 50 years by Japanese. There was 2000-3000 comfort women from Taiwan and also frequent cases of Japanese police entering the houses of Taiwanese and raping Taiwanese women during it's rule.

There's also book sources aswell.

Bridge with Three Men - Page 46
A. Hewitt - 1986



" The path seemed to be unfrequented, so we were alarmed when we ran into a group of Hakka coolie women, in wide-brimmed hats, rimmed with a hanging black veil, black trousers and tunics. Our guides shrieked with laughter at our fear. 'These girls,' they told us, 'have all been raped by the Japanese. "

Women in Taiwan: Sociocultural Perspectives
By Ya-chen Chen





" Japanese colonial troops when local Taiwanese young men lined up to welcome the mat the harbors. Some of them even raped young girls in the Taiwanese countryside, occupied local Taiwanese people's houses "


A History of Pain: Trauma in Modern Chinese Literature and Film
By Michael Berry


" The Japanese suppressed the uprising with mass executions and the alleged massacre of more than 1,000 in a village that helped conceal the rebels. "

"All the female families of the Hakka Rebels were raped by the Japanese. "

" The daughters, sisters, wives and mothers of rebels were captured by Japanese "


The Japanese empire is indeed very big but during it's short lived rule they caused the most harms to Asia. Why do Taiwanese prefer Japanese colonization or do Taiwanese really feel they are Japanese instead of Chinese ?

 
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Aug 2016
232
UK london
#2
Can anyone explain to me why Taiwanese love Japan despite the things they did to them in the past ? Why aren't China and Taiwan united against Japan despite the things they did to Taiwanese and their minorities ??? Do they see being Chinese as lower class and Japanese superior ?


https://japan-forward.com/were-not-...seas-taiwanese-organization-to-form-in-japan/

“We’re Not Chinese”: World’s Biggest Overseas Taiwanese Organization To Form in Japan

https://japantoday.com/category/quo...an-tour-around-the-island-without-any-worries.

Taiwan seems to be pro-Japan. The students can tour around the island without any worries.
 
Sep 2016
451
天下
#3
Can anyone explain to me why Taiwanese love Japan despite the things they did to them in the past ? Why aren't China and Taiwan united against Japan despite the things they did to Taiwanese and their minorities ??? Do they see being Chinese as lower class and Japanese superior ?
United against what? Kawaii girls? Anime? Modern Japan is not really jingoistic empire biding its time for a surprise invasion of Taiwan. It's primarily a major trade partner and pop culture exporter. Not to mention a fellow USA ally. On the other hand Mainland has soldiers stationed on the second side of the strait.

Also, have you ever considered the idea that people might want to have friendly relations with their neighbours?
 

robto

Ad Honorem
Jun 2014
5,863
Lisbon, Portugal
#4
Taiwanese view their former colonial master favorable in the same way today's Filipinos view Americans favorably, for instance.

The war crimes and atrocities the Japanese committed against Taiwanese (mostly aborigines) was largely episodic: it happened during the Japanese conquest of the island and to a lesser degree during the pacific war 1940-1945 when thousands of Taiwanese were forcibly conscripted and women forced to prostitution.

During most of the years of Japanese colonial rule, Taiwan was administered by a civilian Japanese government, it was relatively peaceful, and the island witnessed unprecedented economic and human development. Taiwan by the end of the occupation was one of the most developed regions in the Asian continent, while on the eve of the first Sino-Japanese war, it was a backwater.
That, I believe, is what most Taiwanese want to remember about Japanese occupation - a period of economic development. Popular and historical memory is always selective.
 

heylouis

Ad Honorem
Apr 2013
6,209
China
#5
Taiwanese view their former colonial master favorable in the same way today's Filipinos view Americans favorably, for instance.

The war crimes and atrocities the Japanese committed against Taiwanese (mostly aborigines) was largely episodic: it happened during the Japanese conquest of the island and to a lesser degree during the pacific war 1940-1945 when thousands of Taiwanese were forcibly conscripted and women forced to prostitution.

During most of the years of Japanese colonial rule, Taiwan was administered by a civilian Japanese government, it was relatively peaceful, and the island witnessed unprecedented economic and human development. Taiwan by the end of the occupation was one of the most developed regions in the Asian continent, while on the eve of the first Sino-Japanese war, it was a backwater.
That, I believe, is what most Taiwanese want to remember about Japanese occupation - a period of economic development. Popular and historical memory is always selective.
even in the taiwan island, Lee Tung Hui is known as a "special" Japanese, whose "love" toward japan is not appreciated by others.
 
Mar 2018
78
Earth
#6
The Japanese empire is indeed very big but during it's short lived rule they caused the most harms to Asia. Why do Taiwanese prefer Japanese colonization or do Taiwanese really feel they are Japanese instead of Chinese ?

This map is somewhat wrong. The japs never occupied Yunnan and most of their so-called occupied territories in China were unstable cause there were many Chinese guerilla fighters.
 

heylouis

Ad Honorem
Apr 2013
6,209
China
#7
inside the taiwan island, the equation stands, love japan=taiwan independence=anti mainland china=anti ccp

the whole stuff is manipulated by politics.
the politics inside taiwan, well, though usually understood as democratic and great, in fact is rubbish.

you find all kinds of ugly things in taiwan island politics, which in turn change the whole society into a chaos.
 

robto

Ad Honorem
Jun 2014
5,863
Lisbon, Portugal
#8
even in the taiwan island, Lee Tung Hui is known as a "special" Japanese, whose "love" toward japan is not appreciated by others.
Yeah that's true, but overall the people of Taiwan view their time under Japanese rule with a sort of "nostalgia".
 
Mar 2018
78
Earth
#9
The war crimes and atrocities the Japanese committed against Taiwanese (mostly aborigines) was largely episodic: it happened during the Japanese conquest of the island and to a lesser degree during the pacific war 1940-1945 when thousands of Taiwanese were forcibly conscripted and women forced to prostitution.
There was a huge rebellion led by Taiwanese aborigines in 1930, and japs massacred all those aborigines. It was called the Musha Incident, and a few years ago Taiwan made a film about it called "Seediq Bale".
 

heylouis

Ad Honorem
Apr 2013
6,209
China
#10
Yeah that's true, but overall the people of Taiwan view their time under Japanese rule with a sort of "nostalgia".
that cannot be true.
over 15% of taiwan population are so called people from "other provinces". unless all the rest all love japanese, such number determines it cannot be "overall". it is simple math.
 

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