Scary and Shocking Environmental Report

Mar 2019
1,472
Kansas
#71
So are you saying the Y2K fear was totally unjustified all along then? Or did the malfunctions not occur because people recognised the problem and did something about it? Just because some predictions have been wrong in the past it doesn’t mean that they all will be in the future.
Just about every IT and software industry worker was working that night. So the majority of people who should know took the threat pretty seriously
 

tomar

Ad Honoris
Jan 2011
13,538
#72
So are you saying the Y2K fear was totally unjustified all along then? Or did the malfunctions not occur because people recognised the problem and did something about it? Just because some predictions have been wrong in the past it doesn’t mean that they all will be in the future.
its fairly easy..... follow the money trail... who benefits from those doomsday predictions ? ... in the Y2K case it was a massive boon for all kinds of IT companies

"some" predictions have been wrong ? really ? what is the number ? 99%+ ? 99.9%+ ? 99.99999999%+ ? Of course just based on the huge number of "predictions" someone is bound to get one right eventually.... and btw interestingly a vast majority of predictions seems to be about "bad things" that will happen..... For every one lunatic predicting eternal peace and a state of bliss there are thousands predicting some kind of catastrophe... it seems predicting "good" things simply does not sell....

like the man said

“'It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future'”
 

tomar

Ad Honoris
Jan 2011
13,538
#73
Just about every IT and software industry worker was working that night. So the majority of people who should know took the threat pretty seriously
and they did that out of the goodness of their heart and absolutely for free of course.....


Money we spent

Even the four countries considered most at risk and therefore the subject of Y2K-related travel warnings from the US state department (Belarus, Moldova, Russia and Ukraine), failed to report any disasters. Their nuclear reactors kept on working.

Whatever the result, the cost of fixing the Y2K bug has been frightening, even for an industry with a global turnover of about $1 trillion a year. Assessments of the cost range from about $200bn (Koskinen's ballpark figure) through $600bn (GartnerGroup's prediction) to a high of $858bn (Cap Gemini America). IDC's Project Magellan has made a good case for $320bn, spent over seven years, with 1999 spending of $101bn.


Panic postponed

On the eve of this millennium, the end-of-the-world brigade foresaw doom because some computer software confused 2000 with 1900. Now, this vision has melted in the dawn, leaving many people wondering whether the gurus who prophesied this secular apocalypse were just as unreliable as the mystical millenarians of the past.
Certainly the absence of bug-induced problems has been remarkable. There were no falling aeroplanes, no exploding power stations, no rogue missiles. Those horrors were always the stuff of myth. But so sparse were tales of disaster that journalists were driven to reporting on malfunctions in the breath-testing machines used on drunken motorists by the Hong Kong police
 

GogLais

Ad Honorem
Sep 2013
5,405
Wirral
#74
its fairly easy..... follow the money trail... who benefits from those doomsday predictions ? ... in the Y2K case it was a massive boon for all kinds of IT companies
I dare say some IT companies did make the most of it but that doesn’t prove there wasn’t a problem. I don’t know whether or not the fears were genuine and I suspect that you don’t really know either. If you think you do, you can share your IT experience with us.
 

macon

Ad Honorem
Aug 2015
4,003
Slovenia, EU
#75
Well you describe people telling leftist lies, but you don't seem to know if any of those leftist were involved in previous environmental improvements. And it is definitely is political. Resources need to allocated to enact legislation enforce it etc. That means the taxpayers have to be onboard, and tax payers voice their opinion through the body politic.
Leftist lie is that we are responsible for whole world and that we need to give, give and give more. We don't need to.

How we take care of our local matters is our business and if river was white or brown and now is transparent and with life in it, it was our decision to clean it. I wrote that it was on all levels, also on factories level.
 

Larrey

Ad Honorem
Sep 2011
5,579
#76
We don't need to firkin give (if that's such a horrible thing). We need to act, and on levels that are a challenge. There's some kind of weird category mistake going on here.
 

tomar

Ad Honoris
Jan 2011
13,538
#77
I dare say some IT companies did make the most of it but that doesn’t prove there wasn’t a problem. I don’t know whether or not the fears were genuine and I suspect that you don’t really know either. If you think you do, you can share your IT experience with us.
IT companies, CIOs , individual IT staff and the list goes on... Its fairly well known that it was a minor problem, that should have been treated as standard maintenance... but thanks to the hype a lot of people made a lot of money..... in some cases a lot of pretend work was done , all paid for.... and CIOs abused the excuse to inflate their IT budget.....
 

macon

Ad Honorem
Aug 2015
4,003
Slovenia, EU
#80
Just about every IT and software industry worker was working that night. So the majority of people who should know took the threat pretty seriously
Working that night would be much too late. Our company is having one of few major data bases of our state so we were working few months before that night to change all dates.
 

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