Searching for quote warning about progressives

May 2008
I read a quote somewhere, I think it was in a correspondence between leaders or a leader and his advisors.

I want to say it was czarist Russia, but it could have been Thai monarchs. It was definitely Eurasia, not the Americas. I have a sense it was from the first half of the 20th century, maybe the beginning, but I have a feeling it didn't pre-date the mid-19th century.

The quote said something to the effect of warning the incumbent or incoming leader that progressives have to be appeased now and then, because by nature they're troublemakers (my paraphrase, can't remember original) while conservatives, on the other hand, can be dicked over as a price for abiding the progressives, since conservatives are by nature going to stay loyal to the state and leader anyway.

Google sucks me into Brainyquote and Goodreads, which have worn me down now.

Any help identifying or suggesting where to find the quote greatly appreciated.


Ad Honorem
Dec 2011
Iowa USA
Given that you have opened the nation of the original quote to all Eurasia: perhaps if you search Otto von Bismarck you can get satisfaction to this quest.
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May 2008
The sentiment of the quote was something to this effect: rulers have to yield more often to progressives than their own conservatives cuz the progressives are so uppity; conservatives can be taken for granted by the regime a lot more because they are going to be in most cases on the side of the regime.

It was advice given by one minister or ruler to another minister or ruler.


Forum Staff
Aug 2016
Maybe if you modified your search to 'liberals' rather than 'progressives.' Progressives is a recent term. If 'liberals' doesn't work, then I would try 'radicals' or 'reformers' or 'the left' or 'leftists' or 'revolutionaries.' Does anyone else have terms that were more in use 100 years ago?


Ad Honoris
May 2014
Try asking on the Wikipedia Humanities Reference Desk:

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities - Wikipedia

Maybe someone there will be able to give you an answer in regards to this. Also, you could try looking at Wikiquote.

This sounds like something the Kaiser or one of the people in his inner circle would say.
Yeah, it does seem like it given that the Kaiser fired Bismarck because he disagreed with Bismarck's aggressive anti-socialist policy and wanted to appeal to socialists instead of persecuting them.
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