Should Jerusalem be divided (approximately) based on ethnic lines?

Should Jerusalem be divided (approximately) based on ethnic lines?


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Futurist

Ad Honoris
May 2014
21,877
SoCal
Let's say they were contiguous, you wouldn't blame us for not accepting their occupation or annexation by a foreign state. And we wouldn't blame you for not accepting Mexico's annexation of Hispanic neighborhoods on your side of the border. :) Therefore, we shouldn't blame the Palestinians either.
Do the Mexicans in these border areas even want to join Mexico, though? If so, and if they actually manage to secede from Texas, then I myself would support allowing them to hold a referendum about whether or not to secede from the U.S. and to join Mexico. :)

That would be a solution, but Israel will never accept UN involvement.
Didn't the 1947 U.N. Partition Plan (which the Zionists accepted) state that Jerusalem and its holy sites would become an international zone, though?

This would require Israel to 1. end the occupation,
Yes; correct!

2. end the illegal settlements, and 3. respect the borders under international law. None of this is in Israel's interest and all of this is in Palestine's interest, so it's not going to happen.

I can't think of any solution acceptable to both parties.
Please keep in mind, though, that the Palestinians have already agreed to the possibility of mutually agreed Israeli-Palestinian land swaps. :)
 

kazeuma

Ad Honorem
Jun 2012
2,373
The problem with dividing Jerusalem is where to draw to the line. If the line is drawn a foot to the left - it will anger the Jews. If the line is drawn a foot to the right - it will anger the Arabs. If it is down the middle - it will anger the Christian Right who through bad reading of the Bible believe that an undivided Jerusalem is a requirement of the second cumming of Jesus the Christ. The easy way is let everyone vote in the elections, Arabs are prohibited by law to vote in Jewish elections and Jews are prohibited by law to vote in Palestinian elections, let them vote and see peace happen (or utter chaos).
 

AlpinLuke

Forum Staff
Oct 2011
27,048
Italy, Lago Maggiore
The problem with dividing Jerusalem is where to draw to the line. If the line is drawn a foot to the left - it will anger the Jews. If the line is drawn a foot to the right - it will anger the Arabs. If it is down the middle - it will anger the Christian Right who through bad reading of the Bible believe that an undivided Jerusalem is a requirement of the second cumming of Jesus the Christ. The easy way is let everyone vote in the elections, Arabs are prohibited by law to vote in Jewish elections and Jews are prohibited by law to vote in Palestinian elections, let them vote and see peace happen (or utter chaos).
As I was reminding before, there is even a previous problem: which Jerusalem? Modern or historical?

Since the so called "old Jerusalem" is a tiny part of the present city.
 
Aug 2015
870
wish it was Constantinople
Actually, the amount of fighting currently appears to be much less than it was 10+ years ago. :)
that is true, for at least inside jerusalem. outside, tis still pretty rough. during the israel-gaza conflict, both sides are committing war crimes. there have been rocket attacks and shootings on both sides. Hamas is not going down without a fight. altho the fighting is lessening since the peace with the west bank, there is still much hatred and sentiment to each other. I really think that dividing Jerusalem would be a good idea, but that would honestly make the matter worse. they need to co-operate together in order to build up. if they dont they will continue hating each other, and these 'borders' may seem as a discrimation to some plp.
 

Futurist

Ad Honoris
May 2014
21,877
SoCal
The problem with dividing Jerusalem is where to draw to the line. If the line is drawn a foot to the left - it will anger the Jews. If the line is drawn a foot to the right - it will anger the Arabs. If it is down the middle - it will anger the Christian Right who through bad reading of the Bible believe that an undivided Jerusalem is a requirement of the second cumming of Jesus the Christ. The easy way is let everyone vote in the elections, Arabs are prohibited by law to vote in Jewish elections and Jews are prohibited by law to vote in Palestinian elections, let them vote and see peace happen (or utter chaos).
How about dividing Jerusalem along ethnic lines with sovereignty plebiscites in the various neighborhoods of the Old City of Jerusalem, though? :)
 

diddyriddick

Historum Emeritas
May 2009
14,692
A tiny hamlet in the Carolina Sandhills
Implicit in the OP is the assumption that dividing Israel can change the situation. Neither side wants peace-they want control.