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I would like to open a discussion on the Jewish rebel leader Simon Bar Kokhba someone who has caught my attention lately. For those unaware, Bar Kokhba was a Jewish prince who led a revolt against Roman rule between 132-135 CE during the reign of Emperor Hadrian. Good secondary book on the subject is Lindsey Powell's Bar Kokhba : The Jew Who Defied Hadrian and Challenged the Might of Rome.

Bar Kokhba is described as having 'possessed the character of a robber and a murderer.' (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, 4.6.2.) He was a harsh disciplinarian; we get accounts of him mutilating his own soldiers and kicking a famous Rabbi to death for wanting to negotiate with the Romans. (Midrash Rabbah Lamentations 2.2.4) At the same time he looks to have been a very capable and inspirational leader, 'nevertheless, relying upon his name, boasted to them, as if they were slaves, that he possessed wonderful powers; and he pretended that he was a star that had come down to them out of heaven to bring them light in the midst of their misfortunes.' (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, 4.6.2.) He allegedly preformed amazing feats, 'he would catch the missiles from the enemy's catapults on one of his knees and hurl them back, killing many of the foe.' (Midrash Rabbah Lamentations 2.2.4). Bar Kokhba's combination of strictness and inspiration looks to have effectively united the populace in rebellion against Rome.

The rebellion was well planned with Bar Kokhba waiting for the best moment to strike and gathering weapons, 'So long, indeed, as Hadrian was close by in Egypt and again in Syria, they remained quiet, save in so far as they purposely made of poor quality such weapons as they were called upon to furnish, in order that the Romans might reject them and they themselves might thus have the use of them; but when he went farther away, they openly revolted.' (Cassius Dio, 12.2.) Per Jewish sources he raised 200,000 men for the rebellion. (Midrash Rabbah Lamentations 2.2.4)

Bar Kokhba was smart enough to know he could not engage the Romans in pitched battle and instead relied on guerilla tactics and defensive strongholds throughout the region, 'they did not dare try conclusions with the Romans in the open field, but they occupied the advantageous positions in the country and strengthened them with mines and walls, in order that they might have places of refuge whenever they should be hard pressed, and might meet together unobserved under ground; and they pierced these subterranean passages from above at intervals to let in air and light.' (Cassius Dio, 12.3.)

He seems to have been initially very successful inflicting heavy causalities on the Romans. According to Dio, 'Many Romans, moreover, perished in this war. Therefore Hadrian in writing to the senate did not employ the opening phrase commonly affected by the emperors, "If you and our children are in health, it is well; I and the legions are in health." (Cassius Dio, 13.3.) and Fronto adds that 'a significant number of soldiers were killed by the Jews.' (Fronto, Letter to Marcus Aurelius on the Parthian War. 2.) News spread throughout the empire of Bar Kokhba's accomplishments and 'many outside nations, too, were joining them through eagerness for gain, and the whole earth, one might almost say, was being stirred up over the matter.' (Cassius Dio, 13.2.) Bar Kokhba also began minting his own coins to promote his successes.

However, the Jewish prince failed to take Aelia Capitolina (Jerusalem) and Hadrian ordered more experienced forces into the region under the command of the capable Julius Severus. Severus employed a new strategy of slowly grinding down the insurgents.(Cassius Dio, 13.2-3.) Bar Kokhba eventually withdraw to Betar 'a very secure fortress' per Eusebius (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, 4.6.3.) At Betar he was cornered by two Roman legions (V Macedonica and XI Claudia) and the city put under siege. It was a drawn out affair 'the siege had lasted a long time, and the rebels had been driven to the last extremity by hunger and thirst.' (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, 4.6.3.) Bar Kokhba died in the fighting, the city was sacked by the Romans and its populace massacred. (Midrash Rabbah Lamentations 2.2.4) Its unclear how involved Hadrian was in the operations, Jewish sources have him taking an active role in the campaign while Dio leaves things to his subordinates.

The destruction was immense as Dio writes, 'Fifty of their most important outposts and nine hundred and eighty-five of their most famous villages were razed to the ground. Five hundred and eighty thousand men were slain in the various raids and battles, and the number of those that perished by famine, disease and fire was past finding out. Thus nearly the whole of Judaea was made desolate, a result of which the people had had forewarning before the war. Thus nearly the whole of Judaea was made desolate.' (Cassius Dio, 14.1-2.) and Eusebius adds that the fighting 'devastated Palestine.' (Eusebius Chronicle: Hadrian 1.6.)

What are your thoughts on Simon Bar Kokhba? How would you rate his accomplishments? How does he compare to other enemies of Rome?
 
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After the defeat rabbis begun to call him "Bar Koseba" [son of lie], while they were used to called him "שמעון בר כוכבא", Simone son of the Star [and a rabbi, Akiva, even indicated him as the Messiah ...]. As usual a leader finds his place in history according to his last result, regardless his entire life.

From a Roman perspective his rebellion was quite common and Romans preferred to wait, leaving him "consuming" his forces [overall at level of attitude and self-confidence].
I don't think Romans considered Bar Kokhba a special opponent, he was one among many others.
 
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After the defeat rabbis begun to call him "Bar Koseba" [son of lie], while they were used to called him "שמעון בר כוכבא", Simone son of the Star [and a rabbi, Akiva, even indicated him as the Messiah ...]. As usual a leader finds his place in history according to his last result, regardless his entire life.

:coldsweat: This seems to be the way things are. At least in the present day he seems to be getting some honors.

From a Roman perspective his rebellion was quite common and Romans preferred to wait, leaving him "consuming" his forces [overall at level of attitude and self-confidence].
I don't think Romans considered Bar Kokhba a special opponent, he was one among many others.

Good point, though it certainly distracted alot of Roman manpower for a prolonged period. How does he far against other insurgents against the empire? Arminius, Boudica, the two Batos, Tacfarinas, Aedemon-Sabalus...
 
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:coldsweat: This seems to be the way things are. At least in the present day he seems to be getting some honors.



Good point, though it certainly distracted alot of Roman manpower for a prolonged period. How does he far against other insurgents against the empire? Arminius, Boudica, the two Batos, Tacfarinas, Aedemon-Sabalus...

Eh ... Boudica was a rookie in comparison!
She enjoys some historical honor only because of British historiography [in Italy our historiography substantially ignores her].
She was able to record a nice victory against the Romans, but at the end she lost against fragments of legions ... [I've read this on an Italian work about her and I think that this is a not too much sarcastic way to describe the context]. Personally I think that she and her advisors weren't able to understand the real nature of the Roman power: you can defeat Romans today, but the Eagles will be back ... stronger and more determined than ever ... just to kick your a** ...
Boudica, in occasion of the last battle, even gathered the families of the warriors. Historians suggest she wanted the people to enjoy the show of the final victory against the Romans: reality was that the families of the British warriors got exterminated by the legionaries after the defeat of Boudica's army.

So ... Boudica? Unqualified ...
Among the personages you mention, mah ... if they are the "competitors", Bar Kokhba is in a good position.
 
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We can probably also throw in Vercingetorix, Spartacus, Viriathus...

Not because I'm theoretically Celtic [so Gaul], but really "theoretically", I can say that Vercingetorix is a great competitor, like Spartacus.
Viriathus, in my questionable opinion is at the second level [putting Vercingetorix and Spartacus at the first level].
 
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Simon Bar Kokhba as Military Leader, Where Should He Rank Among Rome's Greatest Enemies?

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I would like to open a discussion on the Jewish rebel leader Simon Bar Kokhba someone who has caught my attention lately. For those unaware, Bar Kokhba was a Jewish prince who led a revolt against Roman rule between 132-135 CE during the reign of Emperor Hadrian. Good secondary book on the subject is Lindsey Powell's Bar Kokhba : The Jew Who Defied Hadrian and Challenged the Might of Rome.

Bar Kokhba is described as having 'possessed the character of a robber and a murderer.' (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, 4.6.2.) He was a harsh disciplinarian; we get accounts of him mutilating his own soldiers and kicking a famous Rabbi to death for wanting to negotiate with the Romans. (Midrash Rabbah Lamentations 2.2.4) At the same time he looks to have been a very capable and inspirational leader, 'nevertheless, relying upon his name, boasted to them, as if they were slaves, that he possessed wonderful powers; and he pretended that he was a star that had come down to them out of heaven to bring them light in the midst of their misfortunes.' (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, 4.6.2.) He allegedly preformed amazing feats, 'he would catch the missiles from the enemy's catapults on one of his knees and hurl them back, killing many of the foe.' (Midrash Rabbah Lamentations 2.2.4). Bar Kokhba's combination of strictness and inspiration looks to have effectively united the populace in rebellion against Rome.

The rebellion was well planned with Bar Kokhba waiting for the best moment to strike and gathering weapons, 'So long, indeed, as Hadrian was close by in Egypt and again in Syria, they remained quiet, save in so far as they purposely made of poor quality such weapons as they were called upon to furnish, in order that the Romans might reject them and they themselves might thus have the use of them; but when he went farther away, they openly revolted.' (Cassius Dio, 12.2.) Per Jewish sources he raised 200,000 men for the rebellion. (Midrash Rabbah Lamentations 2.2.4)

Bar Kokhba was smart enough to know he could not engage the Romans in pitched battle and instead relied on guerilla tactics and defensive strongholds throughout the region, 'they did not dare try conclusions with the Romans in the open field, but they occupied the advantageous positions in the country and strengthened them with mines and walls, in order that they might have places of refuge whenever they should be hard pressed, and might meet together unobserved uAD AD Ander ground; and they pierced these subterranean passages from above at intervals to let in air and light.' (Cassius Dio, 12.3.)

He seems to have been initially very successful inflicting heavy causalities on the Romans. According to Dio, 'Many Romans, moreover, perished in this war. Therefore Hadrian in writing to the senate did not employ the opening phrase commonly affected by the emperors, "If you and our children are in health, it is well; I and the legions are in health." (Cassius Dio, 13.3.) and Fronto adds that 'a significant number of soldiers were killed by the Jews.' (Fronto, Letter to Marcus Aurelius on the Parthian War. 2.) News spread throughout the empire of Bar Kokhba's accomplishments and 'many outside nations, too, were joining them through eagerness for gain, and the whole earth, one might almost say, was being stirred up over the matter.' (Cassius Dio, 13.2.) Bar Kokhba also began minting his own coins to promote his successes.

However, the Jewish prince failed to take Aelia Capitolina (Jerusalem) and Hadrian ordered more experienced forces into the region under the command of the capable Julius Severus. Severus employed a new strategy of slowly grinding down the insurgents.(Cassius Dio, 13.2-3.) Bar Kokhba eventually withdraw to Betar 'a very secure fortress' per Eusebius (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, 4.6.3.) At Betar he was cornered by two Roman legions (V Macedonica and XI Claudia) and the city put under siege. It was a drawn out affair 'the siege had lasted a long time, and the rebels had been driven to the last extremity by hunger and thirst.' (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, 4.6.3.) Bar Kokhba died in the fighting, the city was sacked by the Romans and its populace massacred. (Midrash Rabbah Lamentations 2.2.4) Its unclear how involved Hadrian was in the operations, Jewish sources have him taking an active role in the campaign while Dio leaves things to his subordinates.

The destruction was immense as Dio writes, 'Fifty of their most important outposts and nine hundred and eighty-five of their most famous villages were razed to the ground. Five hundred and eighty thousand men were slain in the various raids and battles, and the number of those that perished by famine, disease and fire was past finding out. Thus nearly the whole of Judaea was made desolate, a result of which the people had had forewarning before the war. Thus nearly the whole of Judaea was made desolate.' (Cassius Dio, 14.1-2.) and Eusebius adds that the fighting 'devastated Palestine.' (Eusebius Chronicle: Hadrian 1.6.)

What are your thoughts on Simon Bar Kokhba? How would you rate his accomplishments? How does he compare to other enemies of Rome?
I thought by 70AD aka BCE the Romans had ethnically cleansed the vast majority of Jews from ancient Israel. The numbers if dead sound just a bit exaggerated . The state of weaponry back in the day most likely meant that deaths would not be in the hundreds of thousands as that figure doesn't come close to being the case in the 20th Century Arab - Israeli Wars where both sides have sophisticated modern weaponry. I would guess less then 10k To an soldiers we're killed in Ancient Israel from 00 AD to 70 AD.
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I thought by 70AD aka BCE the Romans had ethnically cleansed the vast majority of Jews from ancient Israel. The numbers if dead sound just a bit exaggerated . The state of weaponry back in the day most likely meant that deaths would not be in the hundreds of thousands as that figure doesn't come close to being the case in the 20th Century Arab - Israeli Wars where both sides have sophisticated modern weaponry. I would guess less then 10k To an soldiers we're killed in Ancient Israel from 00 AD to 70 AD.
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Certainly exagerated, I took it as a representation of the destruction. Regarding modern vs ancient casulities, I'm unsure. Alot of ancient battles have tens of thousands of deaths in a single day due to the close combat. Also ancient armies tended to massacre everyone in cities they take. In some cases it may surpass modern conflicts. My feeling is that more Jewish warriors/civilians and Roman soliders probably died in the Bar Kokhba war than any of the individual Arab-Israeli Wars. I could be wrong though...
 
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Certainly exagerated, I took it as a representation of the destruction. Regarding modern vs ancient casulities, I'm unsure. Alot of ancient battles have tens of thousands of deaths in a single day due to the close combat. Also ancient armies tended to massacre everyone in cities they take. In some cases it may surpass modern conflicts. My feeling is that more Jewish warriors/civilians and Roman soliders probably died in the Bar Kokhba war than any of the individual Arab-Israeli Wars. I could be wrong though...
I would take ancient casualty figures with a bucket of salt. We can't know how many dead or wounded there were but we do know ancient weapons were not as lethal modern weapons.
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I would like to open a discussion on the Jewish rebel leader Simon Bar Kokhba someone who has caught my attention lately. For those unaware, Bar Kokhba was a Jewish prince who led a revolt against Roman rule between 132-135 CE during the reign of Emperor Hadrian. Good secondary book on the subject is Lindsey Powell's Bar Kokhba : The Jew Who Defied Hadrian and Challenged the Might of Rome.

Bar Kokhba is described as having 'possessed the character of a robber and a murderer.' (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, 4.6.2.) He was a harsh disciplinarian; we get accounts of him mutilating his own soldiers and kicking a famous Rabbi to death for wanting to negotiate with the Romans. (Midrash Rabbah Lamentations 2.2.4) At the same time he looks to have been a very capable and inspirational leader, 'nevertheless, relying upon his name, boasted to them, as if they were slaves, that he possessed wonderful powers; and he pretended that he was a star that had come down to them out of heaven to bring them light in the midst of their misfortunes.' (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, 4.6.2.) He allegedly preformed amazing feats, 'he would catch the missiles from the enemy's catapults on one of his knees and hurl them back, killing many of the foe.' (Midrash Rabbah Lamentations 2.2.4). Bar Kokhba's combination of strictness and inspiration looks to have effectively united the populace in rebellion against Rome.

The rebellion was well planned with Bar Kokhba waiting for the best moment to strike and gathering weapons, 'So long, indeed, as Hadrian was close by in Egypt and again in Syria, they remained quiet, save in so far as they purposely made of poor quality such weapons as they were called upon to furnish, in order that the Romans might reject them and they themselves might thus have the use of them; but when he went farther away, they openly revolted.' (Cassius Dio, 12.2.) Per Jewish sources he raised 200,000 men for the rebellion. (Midrash Rabbah Lamentations 2.2.4)

Bar Kokhba was smart enough to know he could not engage the Romans in pitched battle and instead relied on guerilla tactics and defensive strongholds throughout the region, 'they did not dare try conclusions with the Romans in the open field, but they occupied the advantageous positions in the country and strengthened them with mines and walls, in order that they might have places of refuge whenever they should be hard pressed, and might meet together unobserved under ground; and they pierced these subterranean passages from above at intervals to let in air and light.' (Cassius Dio, 12.3.)

He seems to have been initially very successful inflicting heavy causalities on the Romans. According to Dio, 'Many Romans, moreover, perished in this war. Therefore Hadrian in writing to the senate did not employ the opening phrase commonly affected by the emperors, "If you and our children are in health, it is well; I and the legions are in health." (Cassius Dio, 13.3.) and Fronto adds that 'a significant number of soldiers were killed by the Jews.' (Fronto, Letter to Marcus Aurelius on the Parthian War. 2.) News spread throughout the empire of Bar Kokhba's accomplishments and 'many outside nations, too, were joining them through eagerness for gain, and the whole earth, one might almost say, was being stirred up over the matter.' (Cassius Dio, 13.2.) Bar Kokhba also began minting his own coins to promote his successes.

However, the Jewish prince failed to take Aelia Capitolina (Jerusalem) and Hadrian ordered more experienced forces into the region under the command of the capable Julius Severus. Severus employed a new strategy of slowly grinding down the insurgents.(Cassius Dio, 13.2-3.) Bar Kokhba eventually withdraw to Betar 'a very secure fortress' per Eusebius (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, 4.6.3.) At Betar he was cornered by two Roman legions (V Macedonica and XI Claudia) and the city put under siege. It was a drawn out affair 'the siege had lasted a long time, and the rebels had been driven to the last extremity by hunger and thirst.' (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, 4.6.3.) Bar Kokhba died in the fighting, the city was sacked by the Romans and its populace massacred. (Midrash Rabbah Lamentations 2.2.4) Its unclear how involved Hadrian was in the operations, Jewish sources have him taking an active role in the campaign while Dio leaves things to his subordinates.

The destruction was immense as Dio writes, 'Fifty of their most important outposts and nine hundred and eighty-five of their most famous villages were razed to the ground. Five hundred and eighty thousand men were slain in the various raids and battles, and the number of those that perished by famine, disease and fire was past finding out. Thus nearly the whole of Judaea was made desolate, a result of which the people had had forewarning before the war. Thus nearly the whole of Judaea was made desolate.' (Cassius Dio, 14.1-2.) and Eusebius adds that the fighting 'devastated Palestine.' (Eusebius Chronicle: Hadrian 1.6.)

What are your thoughts on Simon Bar Kokhba? How would you rate his accomplishments? How does he compare to other enemies of Rome?


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I thought by 70AD aka BCE the Romans had ethnically cleansed the vast majority of Jews from ancient Israel.

There very little evidence to support this claim of ethnic cleansing as this revolt show. The Jewish disporia was well established well before the Roman conquest.

Nationalist histories cannot be relied upon.
 
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I would take ancient casualty figures with a bucket of salt. We can't know how many dead or wounded there were but we do know ancient weapons were not as lethal modern weapons.
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Of course the figures are suspect, but keep in mind that Romans had to deploy a huge force to crush this revolt, upwards of 100,000 soldiers. Considering they did apparently suffer heavy casualties even with such a force, and the propensity of raising cities, towns, and villages in ancient times, there had to be huge amount of losses.
 
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Eh ... Boudica was a rookie in comparison!
She enjoys some historical honor only because of British historiography [in Italy our historiography substantially ignores her].
She was able to record a nice victory against the Romans, but at the end she lost against fragments of legions ... [I've read this on an Italian work about her and I think that this is a not too much sarcastic way to describe the context]. Personally I think that she and her advisors weren't able to understand the real nature of the Roman power: you can defeat Romans today, but the Eagles will be back ... stronger and more determined than ever ... just to kick your a** ...
Boudica, in occasion of the last battle, even gathered the families of the warriors. Historians suggest she wanted the people to enjoy the show of the final victory against the Romans: reality was that the families of the British warriors got exterminated by the legionaries after the defeat of Boudica's army.

So ... Boudica? Unqualified ...
Among the personages you mention, mah ... if they are the "competitors", Bar Kokhba is in a good position.

Yeah I find Boudica quite overrated, i think Caratacus and Cassivellaunus are more interesting to read about.
 
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Did Caratacus or Cassivellaunus fight and win any big battle against the Romans?
They both seem to have relied more on guerrilla tactics against the Romans. In particular, the pre-emptive actions leading to the final engagement between Scapula and Caratacus are not all clear in Tacitus, but the Romans had the upper hand at the end, though the victory proved to be far from decisive; nor Caratacus, after all, was probably staking everything on a open battle against Scapula. The treachery of one particularly resilient and wily ...., Cartimandua, cut short the resistance of Caratacus.
 
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I would like to open a discussion on the Jewish rebel leader Simon Bar Kokhba someone who has caught my attention lately. For those unaware, Bar Kokhba was a Jewish prince who led a revolt against Roman rule between 132-135 CE during the reign of Emperor Hadrian. Good secondary book on the subject is Lindsey Powell's Bar Kokhba : The Jew Who Defied Hadrian and Challenged the Might of Rome.

Bar Kokhba is described as having 'possessed the character of a robber and a murderer.' (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, 4.6.2.) He was a harsh disciplinarian; we get accounts of him mutilating his own soldiers and kicking a famous Rabbi to death for wanting to negotiate with the Romans. (Midrash Rabbah Lamentations 2.2.4) At the same time he looks to have been a very capable and inspirational leader, 'nevertheless, relying upon his name, boasted to them, as if they were slaves, that he possessed wonderful powers; and he pretended that he was a star that had come down to them out of heaven to bring them light in the midst of their misfortunes.' (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, 4.6.2.) He allegedly preformed amazing feats, 'he would catch the missiles from the enemy's catapults on one of his knees and hurl them back, killing many of the foe.' (Midrash Rabbah Lamentations 2.2.4). Bar Kokhba's combination of strictness and inspiration looks to have effectively united the populace in rebellion against Rome.

The rebellion was well planned with Bar Kokhba waiting for the best moment to strike and gathering weapons, 'So long, indeed, as Hadrian was close by in Egypt and again in Syria, they remained quiet, save in so far as they purposely made of poor quality such weapons as they were called upon to furnish, in order that the Romans might reject them and they themselves might thus have the use of them; but when he went farther away, they openly revolted.' (Cassius Dio, 12.2.) Per Jewish sources he raised 200,000 men for the rebellion. (Midrash Rabbah Lamentations 2.2.4)

Bar Kokhba was smart enough to know he could not engage the Romans in pitched battle and instead relied on guerilla tactics and defensive strongholds throughout the region, 'they did not dare try conclusions with the Romans in the open field, but they occupied the advantageous positions in the country and strengthened them with mines and walls, in order that they might have places of refuge whenever they should be hard pressed, and might meet together unobserved under ground; and they pierced these subterranean passages from above at intervals to let in air and light.' (Cassius Dio, 12.3.)

He seems to have been initially very successful inflicting heavy causalities on the Romans. According to Dio, 'Many Romans, moreover, perished in this war. Therefore Hadrian in writing to the senate did not employ the opening phrase commonly affected by the emperors, "If you and our children are in health, it is well; I and the legions are in health." (Cassius Dio, 13.3.) and Fronto adds that 'a significant number of soldiers were killed by the Jews.' (Fronto, Letter to Marcus Aurelius on the Parthian War. 2.) News spread throughout the empire of Bar Kokhba's accomplishments and 'many outside nations, too, were joining them through eagerness for gain, and the whole earth, one might almost say, was being stirred up over the matter.' (Cassius Dio, 13.2.) Bar Kokhba also began minting his own coins to promote his successes.

However, the Jewish prince failed to take Aelia Capitolina (Jerusalem) and Hadrian ordered more experienced forces into the region under the command of the capable Julius Severus. Severus employed a new strategy of slowly grinding down the insurgents.(Cassius Dio, 13.2-3.) Bar Kokhba eventually withdraw to Betar 'a very secure fortress' per Eusebius (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, 4.6.3.) At Betar he was cornered by two Roman legions (V Macedonica and XI Claudia) and the city put under siege. It was a drawn out affair 'the siege had lasted a long time, and the rebels had been driven to the last extremity by hunger and thirst.' (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, 4.6.3.) Bar Kokhba died in the fighting, the city was sacked by the Romans and its populace massacred. (Midrash Rabbah Lamentations 2.2.4) Its unclear how involved Hadrian was in the operations, Jewish sources have him taking an active role in the campaign while Dio leaves things to his subordinates.

The destruction was immense as Dio writes, 'Fifty of their most important outposts and nine hundred and eighty-five of their most famous villages were razed to the ground. Five hundred and eighty thousand men were slain in the various raids and battles, and the number of those that perished by famine, disease and fire was past finding out. Thus nearly the whole of Judaea was made desolate, a result of which the people had had forewarning before the war. Thus nearly the whole of Judaea was made desolate.' (Cassius Dio, 14.1-2.) and Eusebius adds that the fighting 'devastated Palestine.' (Eusebius Chronicle: Hadrian 1.6.)

What are your thoughts on Simon Bar Kokhba? How would you rate his accomplishments? How does he compare to other enemies of Rome?
An interesting historical figure to me, but not so much because of his threat to the Romans, but because of his possibilities surrounding him in early the development of early Christianity.

On a side note, I’m interested but not as motivated on the subject as I was 10-20 years ago. The areas where history and religion are often difficult (at least for me) to sort out, because so often people enter into conversations with strong agendas (be they anti-religious or religious) and will twist information in the more obscure parts of these areas of history.
 
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I thought by 70AD aka BCE

aka CE. BCE means "before common era."

the Romans had ethnically cleansed the vast majority of Jews from ancient Israel.

Not until the 130s.

The numbers if dead sound just a bit exaggerated . The state of weaponry back in the day most likely meant that deaths would not be in the hundreds of thousands as that figure doesn't come close to being the case in the 20th Century Arab - Israeli Wars where both sides have sophisticated modern weaponry.
One difference is that, unlike the bar Kochba revolt, arab-israel wars tended to be quite brief. But of course ancient figures are exaggerated.
 
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I don't think Romans considered Bar Kokhba a special opponent, he was one among many others.
Yes. To Rome, the endless Judean rebelliousness represented a minor problem in comparison to the Punic and Mithridatic wars, for instance.
 
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Yes. To Rome, the endless Judean rebelliousness represented a minor problem in comparison to the Punic and Mithridatic wars, for instance.
Even in the relatively pacific early Imperial period, jewish revolts were less of a problem than Dacian and Marcomannic wars.
 
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