Sources for the Tibetan Era of Fragmentation

Jul 2014
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How much control did the Phag-mo Gru-pa, Rin-spungs-pa, and Gtsang-pa have?
PhagMo-drupa was a confederacy. They controlled more or less present Utsang ,Ngari and Chamdo/Yushu areas. Their influence may have extended to Golok Amdos too as many clans trace their lineage to the PhagMo-drupa generals.

Ripung stronghold were western Tibet and central Tibet. They were great patrons of Kagyu sects and had support of Kutse and nomads of Qinghai.

Gtsangpas stronghold were central Tibet and western Tibet. They were the last TIbetan dynasty of Utsang.
 

Haakbus

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Aug 2013
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#12
PhagMo-drupa was a confederacy. They controlled more or less present Utsang ,Ngari and Chamdo/Yushu areas. Their influence may have extended to Golok Amdos too as many clans trace their lineage to the PhagMo-drupa generals.

Ripung stronghold were western Tibet and central Tibet. They were great patrons of Kagyu sects and had support of Kutse and nomads of Qinghai.

Gtsangpas stronghold were central Tibet and western Tibet. They were the last TIbetan dynasty of Utsang.
Yeah they didn't rule over all of Tibet, but how strong was there control over the territories they did?

Didn't the Guge kingdom became a vassal of Rinpung at the end of the 15th century? This of course wouldn't include Ladakh, Baltistan, Zanskar, Spiti, or Nubra
 
Jul 2014
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#13
They were like Shogunates of Japan. When they were strong everybody respected their edicts. When weak vassals rebelled. Phagmogdrus were the vassals of the Mongols/sakyas, Ripungs were the vassals of the Phagmosdrus and Gtsangs were the vassals of the Ripungs. They all rebelled against their overlords and initially succeeded very well.

Many part of the western Tibet were the vassals of central asian turks after decline of the Guge kingdom. Many of these parts had been paying tribute to both Lhasa and Kashgaris. Ripung retook these parts. Guge also a became a vassal and became a pain the ass for the ripungs. Wars against Ladakh and lower Ngaris were fought because of the Guge. These drain in the resources weakened the Rupungs and were ultimately fatal for them.
 
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The Era of Fragmentationis a period of Tibetan history in the 9th and 10th century. During this era, the political centralization of the earlier Tibetan Empire collapsed following a civil war between Yumtän and Ösung. The period was dominated by rebellions against the remnants of imperial Tibet and the rise of regional warlords.

Civil war and the decline of imperial Tibet
The last emperor of the unified Tibetan Empire, Langdarma, was assassinated in 842-846, by either a Buddhist hermit or a monk named Pelgyi Dorje of Lhalung. The assassination left two possible heirs, Yumtan and Osung, to fight for the throne, leading to a civil war. The successors of Osung controlled the region of Ngari, while the successors of Yumtän controlled the Ü region. The son of Ösung was Pälkhortsän, who would sire two sons, Trashi Tsentsän and Thrikhyiding, also called Kyide Nyigön in some sources. Thrikhyiding migrated to the western Tibetan region of upper Ngari and married a woman of high central Tibetan nobility, with whom he founded a local dynasty. This civil war weakened the political authority of the Tibetan m
 

Maki

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Jan 2017
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#17
The Tibetan Empire in Central Asia: A History of the Struggle for Great Power Among Tibetans, Turks, Arabs, and Chinese During the Early Middle Ages by Christopher I. Beckwith, Tibetan Civilization by R. A. Stein, One Hundred Thousand Moons: An Advanced Political History of Tibet by Tsepon Wangchuk Deden Shakabpa might help you.
 
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Haakbus

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Aug 2013
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#18
The Tibetan Empire in Central Asia: A History of the Struggle for Great Power Among Tibetans, Turks, Arabs, and Chinese During the Early Middle Ages by Christopher I. Beckwith, Tibetan Civilization by R. A. Stein, One Hundred Thousand Moons: An Advanced Political History of Tibet by Tsepon Wangchuk Deden Shakabpa might help you.
I've read the first one. Gonna check into the others.
 
Jul 2014
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#19
Please also check out :

1:[Alex McKay] History of Tibet 1,2,3.

2:[Dhondup K.] The Water Horse and Other Years.( Last years of Gtsang and Hoshot Khanate and early Qing )

3:[John Vincent Bellezza] The Dawn of Tibet. ( one of the most interesting books about xiangxiong and pre Buddhist rulers)
 
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