Southerners often compared slavery favorably to the conditions of free labor in the North?


Ad Honorem
Aug 2010
I'd heard of the pontoon bridge incident--it's pretty well known to people who've spent time learning about the American Civil War. It's really not that close to what bb22 described though.
Reality doesn't seem to have a close relationship with his posts in this thread.
Oct 2018
Adelaide south Australia
Prophecy is always 100% accurate when written after the event, as was the case with the Torah.

Good point about the tribalism; What became the Torah, is the oral history of a tribe/tribes of illiterate Bronze Age goat herders who lacked the wit to invent their own god. The deity who became lord of the Universe was pinched from the Sumerians, where he was "EL" , a storm god . Oh yeah, Noah's flood was lifted from the Epic Of Gilgamesh. :)

Oops, that should be 'gods'; originally Yahweh had a wife, Asheroth.
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Ad Honorem
Jan 2017
From various reading , it seems that Sherman Army was followed by a large crowd of ex-slaves wishing to be protected from the confederates
this was composed of individuals , families and whole congregations led by their preachers .
Sherman Midwestern boys were quite enthusiastic at the Negroes girls free contribution to their morale
officers were more circumspect , considered that they had no protection duties ,
looked upon the whole mob as a disgraceful impediment to their movements and a weakening of the martial fiber of the troops

It should be considered also that many officers came from "Egypt" ......this part of the Midwest around Cairo , Memphis . the Mississippi Tennessee rivers
this area was ferociously anti-Black , Illinois , before the war having even passed a law banning Blacks from entering
the politician Generals like Black jack Logan being vociferously open about the local opposition to emancipation
they fought for the Union not to free any slaves


Ad Honorem
Jul 2011
Kind of typical the way the poster changes the pontoon bridge story to Sherman's forces firing on the blacks trailing behind. He seems to be trying to make it good versus evil, taking one side of things. In reality it was a more complicated story. The Union forces did not do something as blatant and vicious as opening fire. The women drowned trying to cross the river out of fear of being gang raped, whipped, killed, returned to slavery etc. The real story is more dramatic, but doesn't make either side look particularly good or that terrible.

It isn't clear that destroying the pontoon bridges was Sherman's idea. Jefferson C. Davis who ordered it, like Lincoln had moved from Kentucky to southern Indiana. It is quite possible he had what we would consider racist southern attitudes. He was originally an enlisted man who was commissioned during the Mexican War. As mentioned he got away with killing a Union general in an argument earlier in the war.
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