Syrian Civil War: military operations (the show must go on)

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four tanks is twenty men of which at least 6 would escape unhurt ,
tanks are a big saving in manpower compared to an infantry assault
Four tanks is 16 men or 12 if you're talking about a tank with an autoloader like the T-72. Unfortunately, Soviet made tanks tend to explode when hit, killing all aboard.
 

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Rebel media reporting that they have succesfully thrown SAA out of the western edges of Khan Sheykoun

Which kind of suggests the SAA have exceeded their announced gains of villages to the east of Hobeit and their forward units are in the city. Last i heard they were 8km away.

Also the SyAF lost an Su22 over Idlib.
 

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Four tanks is 16 men or 12 if you're talking about a tank with an autoloader like the T-72. Unfortunately, Soviet made tanks tend to explode when hit, killing all aboard.
Theres a problem with the design of the autoloader which leaves live rounds exposed in the turret. The SAA have largely fixed the problem by redistributing ammunition and better infantry/tank cooperation tactics.

Saying that, the SAA have been trying to take Tel Tari to the east of Khan Shaykun, the hilltop there has been well defended and their second assault has been thrown back. Tal Tari overlooks Ta'amanah which is the main rebel strongpoint to the east of Khan shaykoun, if the SAA holds it they can bring up artillery and blast Ta'amanah into submission.

Rebel fighting in the south of the cauldron is melting away, presumably fighters are either trying to get through Khan Shaykoun before the cauldron closes or being moved up to defend the town.
 
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Strange you should say that, the Turks have been trying to send a convoy south through Idlib to Morek including tanks, APCs, fuel and supplies, presumably to reinforce their observation post.

The road ahead of them has just been taken out by an airstrike. No casualties but they arent going anywhere.

The SAA have been very quiet for the last few days, that usually means they've been halted either by rebel defences or to reorganise although there have been some advances on the south west front.

Theyve just announced that theyre in charge of all the farming area to the west of Khan Shaykoun, are 500 metres from the main highway and that the town is under effective siege. Since their eastern push is stalled id say Tel Tari and Ta'amanah are still well defended so the rebels can still get men and supplies through but theyre going to be under constant artillery attack and any large scale resupply is finished.
 
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And as soon as i say that things start getting complicated.

Islamic state have been trying to take advantage of SAA distraction and mount attacks in Deir Ez-Zur.

Daraa fell last year, theyve had a year to recover and either reconciled fighters dont like the governments actions or there were holdouts but the FSA is back and has started attacking guard posts in Daraa. Assorted NDF and police units are responding.

The turks have got reinforcements through to Khan Sheikun and say theyre going to set up observation posts. The SAA says the Turkish observation post at the Nimr crossroads (no idea where that is, any ideas?) is on fire and has been abandoned.
Which means the Turks are either reinforcing or withdrawing from their observation posts and i havent a clue whats going on.

*Edit* The Turkish backed NLF has been seen sending convoys of reinforcements south towards Khan Sheykoun.

The first corps of the FSA (also Turkish financed) has now also started sending large convoys of reinforcements south, whether thats connected to FSA attacks in Daraa?
 
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Looks like theyre close, theyre claiming theyve taken the Nimr checkpoint and Tal Nimr, that means theyre overlooking the highway with heavy guns so anyone approaching is going to be playing artillery roullette.

On the other hand they dont seem to have physically reached the highway yet, just near enough to close it off.

*edit*

I've just noticed something. Liwa Al-Quds isnt there, they've been resting since Aleppo but theyre among the SAA's premier fighting units. Theres no Russian forces except in air support. Theres no Iranians.

All of the units from the Republican guard 4th division, Tiger force and the NDF are Syrian. For the first time in years this is an entirely Syrian manned and commanded operation. Which might explain some of the problems at the start and why theyre so jubilant now.
 
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Its also worth noting how much night fighting the Syrians are doing now, making things unpleasant for the rebels 24 hours a day

Rebel sources are apparently putting out appeals for Night vision equipment so theyre not totally outmatched but it looks like the SAA have been swapping out tired units and keeping up 24 hour pressure till the rebels cracked from exhaustion.

thats from 2 days ago so a bit out of date now.


It also looks like the supposed Nimr checkpoint outpost of the Turkish army was wishful thinking by the rebels, that the Turks would take up positions there and delay the SAA but they collapsed too quickly for the Turks to get there.
 
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Ignore all previous posts, SAA say they have taken Khan Sheykoun, after the Nimr crossing fell and they risked being encircled the rebels began a heavy counter-attack that failed within a couple of hours and remaining forces have begun to retreat from Khan Sheikhoun and the pocket to the south.

May be a bit early to claim theyve taken the town but they definitely seem to be inside it!
 

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