Syrian Civil War: military operations (the show must go on)

Mar 2012
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I was against Erdogans meddling within Syria against Assad since day 1 but YPG must go. They can choose live under assada regime, thats fine. But never as an independent policy, that means neverending kurdish pkk insurgency in turkey on the neighbouring border.
And they didnt fight alone against isis with ak47s lmao, with state of the art american weapons and american air support.
 

starman

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Jan 2014
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What this is likely to do is push forward a rapprochement between Syrian Kurds and Damascus. This had to happen eventually as the Kurds were never going to be allowed to continue controlling the East bank of the Euphrates and all it's oli fields. Now they have been stabbed in the back by their "friends", they know that ultimately their position is untenable. Assad is perhaps the only person they can cut a deal with to ensure their survival.
With luck, this will hasten an end to the war on terms favorable to Damascus.
 
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Jan 2014
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After bombardments, the ground offensive has begun sometime now...


Does anybody have info on the degree of Turkish progression and if resistance has been strong?

NOTE Before people start disscussing, just know that I want information, just for information itself. In BBC, and other mainstream media, and in Reddit, and other forums, I find nothing useful.
 

sparky

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Jan 2017
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So far it seems to be broad scale bombing all over the contact line from Al Malikiyah in the east to Jarabulus
some ground action is mainly on the Tel Abyad axis ,
it's early days yet , middle East fighting is mostly about a lot of pyrotechnics ,
on paper the YPG should be good fighters and they have received a lot of weaponry from the US much to the fury of Ergolan
the whole world is wringing its hands in a great display of useless noise
with Iran and Russia laughing their head off
 
Jan 2014
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BBC says that (according to different sources) from 100.000 to 450.000 people on the move, escaping the offensive.
 
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Netherlands
With luck, this will hasten an end to the war on terms favorable to Damascus.
Not so sure if there is much in for damascus or for anyone than russia. If the crazy turkish plans will materialise by creating a sunni arab corridor between the turkish and syrian kurds, including the revival of the re-propped up fsa and the al qaida related forces again, there will be a lot of trouble. And the turkish army will be in that corridor permanently too. There is a lot of violence coming again, this time (openly) covered by turkey. Hopefully they will be until their necks in it with no chance of return.
 
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starman

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Jan 2014
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It may be wishful thinking but if the Turks crush the Kurds yet suffer high casualties themselves and are forced out under international pressure, it won’t be too hard for the SAA to pick up the pieces in the area after Idlib is taken care of.
 

Larrey

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Sep 2011
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It may be wishful thinking but if the Turks crush the Kurds yet suffer high casualties themselves and are forced out under international pressure, it won’t be too hard for the SAA to pick up the pieces in the area after Idlib is taken care of.
Back to the Syrian police state and its torture chambers. Things are really picking up then. Yay!

The SAA is currently detaining and killing returning refugees. The SAA currently prefers to just preventively kill possible future opposition. If it reassumes control of all of Syrian territory, that will be without the population.

Also, don't expect the Turks to let go of what they can take control of. They are using Syrian Sunni Arabs as ground forces to do the leg work in Syria, and they have no wish to live under the SAA – mostly because thet wouldn't be left alive by it, since they are largely Islamists.

Turkey is likely to use the Syrian Arabs it controls to ethnically cleanse the Turkish border of Kurds. The SAA is in turn likely to cleanse the same region of the Syrian Arabs under Turkish protection.

However this turns out in the end, it will not end the war. At least not on any terms other than everybody being used in the fight ending up dead.
 
Mar 2012
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Back to the Syrian police state and its torture chambers. Things are really picking up then. Yay!

The SAA is currently detaining and killing returning refugees. The SAA currently prefers to just preventively kill possible future opposition. If it reassumes control of all of Syrian territory, that will be without the population.

Also, don't expect the Turks to let go of what they can take control of. They are using Syrian Sunni Arabs as ground forces to do the leg work in Syria, and they have no wish to live under the SAA – mostly because thet wouldn't be left alive by it, since they are largely Islamists.

Turkey is likely to use the Syrian Arabs it controls to ethnically cleanse the Turkish border of Kurds. The SAA is in turn likely to cleanse the same region of the Syrian Arabs under Turkish protection.

However this turns out in the end, it will not end the war. At least not on any terms other than everybody being used in the fight ending up dead.
Two birds in one stone, no more refugees, not a bad outcome.