Syrian Civil War: military operations (the show must go on)

sparky

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Jan 2017
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from Anadolu Agency an Ankara site pro Ergolan

" With the bloc facing accusations of not keeping its promises, the amount the EU has paid to support Syria refugees in Turkey must be clarified, said a top European Union leader on Tuesday.

The March 2016 deal between Turkey and the EU on migration was an "important and complex" one, European Commission President-elect Ursula von der Leyen told a press conference in Brussels.
Von der Leyen said EU has been willing to pay the €6 billion ($6.6 billion) it pledged for refugees in Turkey but that there is a debate over whether the whole sum has been paid out or not.

"There are different numbers out there. I think numbers have to be clarified. Because we are all accountable to that," she stressed.

The 2016 deal aimed to discourage irregular migration through the Aegean Sea by taking stricter measures against human traffickers and improving the conditions for the 3 million -- now 3.6 million -- Syrian refugees in Turkey.

Turkey has complained that the EU failed to uphold its side of the deal, including visa liberalization for Turkish citizens and the millions of euros in aid for Syrian refugees.
Last week Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan -- a longtime critic of EU failures to keep its promises -- warned that Turkey could "open its doors" to let Syrian refugees to cross into Europe if Ankara does not get the support it expects.
The EU had pledged €6 billion ($6.6 billion) aid to improve living conditions of Syrian refugees in Turkey, but only €2.22 billion ($2.45 billion) were disbursed as of this June, according to Turkey.
Turkey currently hosts some 3.6 million Syrian refugees, more than any other country in the world."
 
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Larrey

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Sep 2011
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In theoretic terms it would be extortion if there was force implied. There wasn’t.
The EU money directed at the Syrian refugees in Turkey also isn't channeled directly through the the Turkish government, but through various NGO's.

That is a point of displeasure with Erdogan's government. (Not that Turkey doesn't profit, since these organizations, and the refugees themselves, end up spending all those Euros directly in Turkey. It's just that the way the EU has chosen to do this so far, Erdogan can't quite get his hands on them.)
 
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@Von Manstein Talking about Syrian refugees, do you have info about the plan of President of Turkey for their resettlement / could you please share with us what you've learnt from Turkish media about this issue? EDIT: How do Turkish authorities deal with non-Syrians on the territory of the country presently / how many are they?
in fact, the media and the public are more concerned about the post-operation . how to place the Syrians there after the safe zone is created , who will ensure the safety of the safe zone , who will finance the settlements to be established there (this is a big expense) .

it was already obvious that the operation was risky, but it was also necessary , the public knew this and supported the president's decision . everyone is waiting to what's gonna happen in the field . İn addition there are superpowers such as Russia and U.S.A in the negotation table as well as Turkey . Turkish troops will likely withdraw from the region , but the president does not want to leave the region before the operation reaches its full purpose . everyone is afraid that the terrorists who are drawn into the Syria will be armed and come back .
 
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by the way thank you for your question , it's nice to try to see it from different sides . that's what i'm trying to do . I'm trying follow to issue from Russıan, American and British media . I think the empathy is essential and necessary in this period when no one understands each other and acts biased.
 
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Sep 2019
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It's not up to Turks to decide who's a real Kurd and who's not. And for a 'honorable country' Turkey has plenty of journalist and civilian blood on their hands. The major difference being that over the last decades violence against Kurds was condoned by the government, while Kurdish resistance is not.
the Kurds who live there are only terrorists , I don't think any kurdish would want to be related to them, and the Kurds who I speak to says that they are ashamed of them . Journalists and civilians blood ? be more specific and give some examples .
 
Sep 2019
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Here's excerpts form Turkish foreign minister Çavuşoğlu 's speech at TRT World Forum. I hope this speech clarifies your questions about Turkey's Syria policy .


We have 35 hours left. If they don't withdraw, our operation will resume. This is also what we agreed with the Americans," If all the YPG/PKK elements withdraw from this region, we can halt the operation, . I think around 30 harassing fires came and we lost one soldier. As we agreed with the Americans, we retaliated against those harassing fires.


Talks continue with Astana guarantors. Tomorrow, we are going to Sochi to meet with [Russian] President [Vladimir] Putin. That meeting will be also very crucial. “We are ready to work with all actors, small groups, Astana guarantors, and the other international community of course led by the UN to reach our political settlement, peace, and stability in Syria .
 
Aug 2019
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In theoretic terms it would be extortion if there was force implied. There wasn’t.

For the EU it is less costly to pay a third country to maintain the refuges than to allow them to enter in the EU territory. Specially because the EU is not socially ready to deal with its huge mass and because since the Arab spring their numbers increased drastically and now they arrive from everywhere, not only from Syria. The problem is if the money is given but not used with that specific end. And Erdogan is not necessarily a serious partner.
Well, i see it as turkey's accountability to deal with the refugees. They are a contributor of this mess in the first place. This is the least what they can do, and got paid for it too.
 
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Well, i see it as turkey's accountability to deal with the refugees. They are a contributor of this mess in the first place. This is the least what they can do, and got paid for it too.
But you shouldn't see . And paid for it ? Man where do you learn this nonsenses .

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Sep 2019
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