Territorial Ambitions of Francisco Franco?

Jun 2013
6,395
USA
#1
When Francisco Franco was the Caudillo of Spain, what were his territorial ambitions?

Supposedly he wished to have French Morocco for himself and asked for it but Hitler said no (as Vichy France controlled Morocco) unless Spain entered the war.

There was also the port of Tangiers, an international city, that Franco occupied from 1940 - 1944.

Any others?
 
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martin76

Ad Honorem
Dec 2014
6,611
Spain
#8
Gibraltar is not a issue about value...or worth. It is about other issues as honor... Gibraltar was not yielded by Spain to Britain (Treay of Utrecht)... The King of Spain yielded only the Propiety... not the Sovereignty. The article is clear.. the Soverignty belongs to the Catholick King (no to the British King).

As easy as to read the Treaty of Utrecht:

Artículo X: El Rey Católico, por sí y por sus herederos y sucesores, cede por este Tratado a la Corona de la Gran Bretaña la plena y entera propiedad de la ciudad y castillo de Gibraltar, juntamente con su puerto, defensas y fortalezas que le pertenecen, dando la dicha propiedad absolutamente para que la tenga y goce con entero derecho y para siempre, sin excepción ni impedimento alguno. Pero, para evitar cualquiera abusos y fraudes en la introducción de las mercaderías, quiere el Rey Católico, y supone que así se ha de entender, que la dicha propiedad se ceda a la Gran Bretaña sin jurisdicción alguna territorial y sin comunicación alguna abierta con el país circunvecino por parte de tierra. Y como la comunicación por mar con la costa de España no puede estar abierta y segura en todos los tiempos, y de aquí puede resultar que los soldados de la guarnición de Gibraltar y los vecinos de aquella ciudad se ven reducidos a grandes angustias, siendo la mente del Rey Católico sólo impedir, como queda dicho más arriba, la introducción fraudulenta de mercaderías por la vía de tierra, se ha acordado que en estos casos se pueda comprar a dinero de contado en tierra de España circunvecina la provisión y demás cosas necesarias para el uso de las tropas del presidio, de los vecinos u de las naves surtas en el puerto. Pero si se aprehendieran algunas mercaderías introducidas por Gibraltar, ya para permuta de víveres o ya para otro fin, se adjudicarían al fisco, y presentada queja de esta contravención del presente Tratado serán castigados severamente los culpados…
Si en algún tiempo a la Corona de la Gran Bretaña le pareciere conveniente dar, vender, enajenar de cualquier modo la propiedad de la dicha Ciudad de Gibraltar, se ha convenido y concordado por este Tratado que se dará a la Corona de España la primera acción antes que a otros para redimirla.

English:

Article X: The Catholic King does hereby, for himself, his heirs and successors, yield to the Crown of Great Britain the full and entire propriety of the town and castle of Gibraltar, together with the port, fortifications, and forts thereunto belonging; and he gives up the said propriety to be held and enjoyed absolutely with all manner of right for ever, without any exception or impediment whatsoever. But that abuses and frauds may be avoided by importing any kind of goods, the Catholic King wills, and takes it to be understood, that the above-named propriety be yielded to Great Britain without any territorial jurisdiction and without any open communication by land with the country round about. Yet whereas the communication by sea with the coast of Spain may not at all times be safe or open, and thereby it may happen that the garrison and other inhabitants of Gibraltar may be brought to great straits; and as it is the intention of the Catholic King, only that fraudulent importations of goods should, as is above said, be hindered by an inland communications. it is therefore provided that in such cases it may be lawful to purchase, for ready money, in the neighbouring territories of Spain, provisions and other things necessary for the use of the garrison, the inhabitants, and the ships which lie in the harbour. But if any goods be found imported by Gibraltar, either by way of barter for purchasing provisions, or under any other pretence, the same shall be confiscated, and complaint being made thereof, those persons who have acted contrary to the faith of this treaty, shall be severely punished. And Her Britannic Majesty, at the request of the Catholic King, does consent and agree, that no leave shall be given under any pretence whatsoever, either to Jews or Moors, to reside or have their dwellings in the said town of Gibraltar; and that no refuge or shelter shall be allowed to any Moorish ships of war in the harbour of the said town, whereby the communication between Spain and Ceuta may be obstructed, or the coasts of Spain be infested by the excursions of the Moors. But whereas treaties of friendship and a liberty and intercourse of commerce are between the British and certain territories situated on the coast of Africa, it is always to be understood, that the British subjects cannot refuse the Moors and their ships entry into the port of Gibraltar purely upon the account of merchandising. Her Majesty the Queen of Great Britain does further promise, that the free exercise of their religion shall be indulged to the Roman Catholic inhabitants of the aforesaid town. And in case it shall hereafter seem meet to the Crown of Great Britain to grant , sell or by any means to alienate therefrom the propriety of the said town of Gibraltar, it is hereby agreed and concluded that the preference of having the sale shall always be given to the Crown of Spain before any others.

So Utrecht is clear.. The British Majesty has the Property.. The Catholick King has the Jurisdiction... the Sovereignty. It was what signatured in Utrecht by the British..
Remember, Britain didn´t conquer Gibraltar in a War against Spain... Gibraltar was conquered by the "Austracistas" (Habsburg supporters)...Austrian, Dutch, Spanish and British... under Spanish Flag and on behalf of Charles III, King of Spain. So forget, it was a British conquest in a war against Spain. And Gibraltar British propiety is smaller that ilegally ocuppied. The Airport is not in British zone, for example.

About Franco wanted the whole of the French West Africa.
 
Jun 2013
6,395
USA
#10
Gibraltar is not a issue about value...or worth. It is about other issues as honor... Gibraltar was not yielded by Spain to Britain (Treay of Utrecht)... The King of Spain yielded only the Propiety... not the Sovereignty. The article is clear.. the Soverignty belongs to the Catholick King (no to the British King).

A lot of British territories were areas "not officially theirs"

Like Egypt and Cyprus.

But it's theirs anyway.