Texas pride

Nov 2013
739
Texas
IS Texas as progressive as TExans think it is? How far back in history does this "Texas pride" thing go?
 

Zip

Jan 2018
767
San Antonio
IS Texas as progressive as TExans think it is? How far back in history does this "Texas pride" thing go?
Texas is progressive only if you're a big shot businessman; the average working stiff is powerless and worse yet, servile. The elites deny the working class political and economic power but allow them rowdy behavior, guns and a false pride that's embodied in "tough guy" behavior. Just so you don't get tough with the elites. When needing advice you're expected to consult your pastor, who is a businessman himself and can be counted on to look after the interests of the elites.
 
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Zip

Jan 2018
767
San Antonio
I'd say March 7, 1836. They have been bragging about getting their heads handed to them ever since.
You won't hear Anglo Texans criticizing Travis, Crockett and the New Orleans Greys for being illegal aliens.

Yeah, those Texians in the Alamo were caught with their pants down and were forced to take refuge in the Alamo; they'd assumed the Mexicans were still far to the south. They couldn't retreat so holed up. Many of them were mercenaries and freebooters from the United States and could expect no mercy.
 
Sep 2012
1,222
Tarkington, Texas
I lived most of my life just East of Texas in Louisiana. I am familiar with Texas. I now live in Southeast Texas. Texas Pride started when Americans started to settle in Tejas. The Mexican government could not make Mexicans settle in Texas. There were Commanches and their Allies who raided over a large area in Texas and into Mexico. The Kiowas made a raid that went all the way to the Yucatan (they described Monkeys in the trees there!). The Comanches ran the Apache and the more peacable tribes out.

The areas I have been in Texas have been pretty Conservative. The big towns have some Minority densities that make them seem Progressive. Austin is downright weird. Houston has several Democrats in the Minority Districts. There are several small all Black towns in Texas (Troup for one).

I used to work at an Indian Casino in Kinder, LA. I loved Texas players. They would ride for hours just to give the Indians their money. I remember the night one guy made a remark about how cousins married cousins in Louisiana. I laughed and told him to check with a lawyer when he got back to Texas on whether Uncles could marry Nieces in Texas... If he did, I bet he got a surprise!

Texas is different from many states. I remember driving home from Dallas one Saturday and we passed through a small town (Jacksboro?) early. There were a number of Mexican adult males sitting at a store parking lot waiting to see if anyone needed workers. I have never seen this in Louisiana, but I have read about it happening in Mexico.

I would have to ask Picollo what he defines "Progressive" as? Texas has been voting Republican after the Democrats ran all the Southern Democrats out. Louisiana has no true Democrats. They have Republicans and Progressives (they go back to the 19th Century).

Pruitt
 
Sep 2012
1,222
Tarkington, Texas
Zip, I just read a book, Sam Houston and the Alamo Avengers. It is mostly right. If you get the chance read it. I bet you can get it from your local library. I grew up in Lake Charles, LA. There is a big stone monument to Isaac Ryan who travelled from the Lake to die in the Alamo. The Texas government had offered 600 acres to anyone that would sign up for Militia duty. Andrew Jackson sent the Orleans Greys Militia Company from New Orleans and the Cantonment Atchison on Lake Charles also had soldiers desert to go to Texas.

Pruitt
 

royal744

Ad Honoris
Jul 2013
10,981
San Antonio, Tx
The defenders of the Alamo had no idea at the time, but their stand there did buy Sam Houston some additional time to rein in the “runaway scrape” and to turn his barely-trained army to San Jacinto (outside of present day Houston) where the “Napoleon of the West” was caught with his pants down. Literally.
 
Sep 2014
999
Texas
I wasn't born here, but I got here as fast as I could. Not everything in Texas history is peaches and cream...I mean the second president of Texas chased the Cherokee out of Georgia and then did the same in Texas. He can go to hell for all I care. But I live in an East Texas town....county seat...that doesn't have the issues that cities have. People want to get along with each other because they know each other. Mr. Charles is a Black pastor and works as a teacher. Everyone knows him. The Sheriff keeps getting reelected because he does his job and he doesn't have a law for white folks and another for POC. We have a segment of the community that is Bible orientated and another segment that isn't, but there's no fighting. I love Texas except when they play OU or New Orleans...I grew up in Louisiana and lived in OK for many years.
 

Futurist

Ad Honoris
May 2014
23,676
SoCal
IS Texas as progressive as TExans think it is?
HELL NO! Not in regards to the death penalty, in any case.

Things might get better over time due to demographic trends gradually making Texas bluer and bluer, though. :)