The great Reagan era (or not)

Reagan, a good or bad president

  • One of the greatest presidents

    Votes: 30 20.7%
  • A good president

    Votes: 35 24.1%
  • Neither

    Votes: 22 15.2%
  • A pretty bad president, but not horrible

    Votes: 22 15.2%
  • A greedy, evil man who was a horrible president

    Votes: 36 24.8%

  • Total voters
    145
Feb 2012
3,626
Portugal
#31
I know that the years of Reagan's presidency tend to be looked upon as good years, and he tends to be looked upon as a good president. However, in the groups I hang out in (we're just a bunch of nerds) he is looked upon as an evil psycho maniac who will bomb anyone anywhere and who played an essential role in corporations coming to power. What do you think on this issue?
Once I asked a person from the ex Soviet Union who disliked the GOP about Reagan and the imediate answer was, "he was a friend and visited the Soviet Union". Consider that the USSR was the rival at the time.
The only problem with the Reagan administration is that they cheated, they cut taxes but instead of cutting spending in the same amount they increased debt.
I voted the highest since all great American presidents were controversial.
 
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Mar 2010
2,522
#32
I know that the years of Reagan's presidency tend to be looked upon as good years, and he tends to be looked upon as a good president. However, in the groups I hang out in (we're just a bunch of nerds) he is looked upon as an evil psycho maniac who will bomb anyone anywhere and who played an essential role in corporations coming to power. What do you think on this issue?
When you have rival president's predicting that they will perform as well as he had (Obama advisors and supporters comparing Reagan's recovery in the '80s to their current situation in early 2009). You know they thought he was a man that has a good presidential record to follow.
 

Lucius

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Jan 2007
16,370
Nebraska
#33
Oliver North was violating the Boland Amendment from his office in the White House. Either Reagan knew what was going on in the White House or he did not.
 
#34
All that "Evil Empire " talk, the Soviets took it very seriously, they thought an attack was imminent so much so that Reagan had to tone it down. Trollish behaviour IMHO
I'm sure they did also. Keep in mind though, Detente had broken down by the late 70's, the Soviets had invaded Afghanistan, we had what appeared to be a weak, vacillating and ineffectual President prior to Regan, The Soviets appeared entrenched in Eastern Europe and the West overall seemed weak and mismatched against a Soviet juggernaut that could steamroll over the rest of Europe any time it wished if it were not for the presence of Nato and the American nuclear umbrella.
 
Oct 2012
5,366
Between a rock and a hard place
#35
The Soviets appeared entrenched in Eastern Europe and the West overall seemed weak and mismatched against a Soviet juggernaut that could steamroll over the rest of Europe any time it wished if it were not for the presence of Nato and the American nuclear umbrella.

The portrayal of the soviets as a juggernaut is a western fantasy. Their indifferent performance in Afghaniistan shows the reality of the capability of the great Soviet army. Russia/Soviet Union has always looked so strong and when tested shown appaling weaknesses. Detante had been a failure for the soviet Union and the likes Of Andropov and Breshenev were weak, incompetent figuers who could barely control; their satalite neighbours.
 
#36
The portrayal of the soviets as a juggernaut is a western fantasy. Their indifferent performance in Afghaniistan shows the reality of the capability of the great Soviet army. Russia/Soviet Union has always looked so strong and when tested shown appaling weaknesses. Detante had been a failure for the soviet Union and the likes Of Andropov and Breshenev were weak, incompetent figuers who could barely control; their satalite neighbours.
The implication was on the perception and not what we have come to know as a reality. Was their strength a fantasy? Not to the powers that were back then. Not many back then predicted that the Soviet Union would be history ten years later after Regan was first sworn in.
 
Jan 2012
193
Land of 10,000 lakes
#38
What of the "spinners" of history? Obviously Reagan had them, because when he was President I always bought into the Saturday Night Live image, which said that he was either evil or incompetent. Things have not changed. The main point I take away from these discussions is that it is only cool if you support the socialists. Anything else will result in a concerted personal attack on you, mainly because the left is unsure. I am certain I have been attacked for no other reason than the lack of competence on the left of historum.
That is a funny post. I think maybe you aren't paying attention. I have witnessed Presidency's going back to Carter. The attacks have been most personal and visceral against our current President by far. No one was questioning Reagan's Americanness for example. His father wasn't publicly derided.
Part of that is due to the exponential jump in information available to us and in a diminishing of the office of President over the last generation. I wonder how Reagan would fare in today's 24 hour news cycle where every minutia is reported and every quack that opposes you has a radio show, a blog or access to a tv camera. It's a different world today.
 
#39
That is a funny post. I think maybe you aren't paying attention. I have witnessed Presidency's going back to Carter. The attacks have been most personal and visceral against our current President by far. No one was questioning Reagan's Americanness for example. His father wasn't publicly derided.
Depends a persons views. Seeing that this is too political, i will just say that i disagree. It is nothing worse than what his 2 predecessors had gone through.
 

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