- Feb 2018
- 172
- EU-Germany
as mentioned before in this thead, said DNA paper now came out (pre-print)
i understand that population-genetics can be misleading when its based on modern samples and thence alludes to a host of twisted versions and interpretations of the past, but since this paper doesnt deal with modern samples but actual samples from the Nuragic(I-III/1600-800BC) and earlier periods, i wanted to ask about the context of said samples
Seulo Caves - Stampu Erdi / natural cave 1600-1300BC Nuragic I (n=1)
Perdasdefogu S'Orcu 'e Tueri / natural cave 1400-1000BC Nuragic I-III (n=5)
Seulo Caves - Su Asedazzu / small cave and rockshelter 1400-900BC Nuragic I-III (n=3)
Is Arutas / natural cave 1300-1000BC Nuragic III (n=2)
Ingurtosu Mannu / chamber tomb (giants tomb) 1200-1000BC Nuragic III (n=1)
Perdasdefogu ?S'Orcu 'e Tueri / natural cave 1200-1000BC Nuragic III (n=1)
Lu Maccioni / natural cave 1100-800BC Nuragic III (n=2)
easy to notice that alot of these samples(x1) are from caves or cave-burials _so question: was that a standad practice during the nuragic times or are these samples fringe/outliers of said civ.? one sample does however derive from a 'giants tomb' but did not differ from the rest;
now the reason behind all of that is that they also had samples from earlier periods, 4000BC neolithic for example, and what they revealed was that the nuragic sards were derived(in continuity) from these earlier pops. all the way back to the neolithic; and that would now debunk(concl.) the whole 'srdn/sherden from the east' (spec. into Nuragic III) theory, since there were no signs of breaks and of migrants, and hence manifest the whole 'srdn/sherden from sardinia' concept !unless ofcourse these samples are fringe/outliers of said culture and thus not actually repr.; so what do you reckon, are these sites repr. for the nuragic period or rather fringe?
in addendum the Bonnanaro(A-B) samples 2/3 were also from caves but 1/3 (higher than for the nuragic set) were from necropoleis (rock-carved tombs) 3x Su Crucifissu Mannu 2300-1700BC and 1x S'Iscia 'e sas Piras 2300-2100BC
i understand that population-genetics can be misleading when its based on modern samples and thence alludes to a host of twisted versions and interpretations of the past, but since this paper doesnt deal with modern samples but actual samples from the Nuragic(I-III/1600-800BC) and earlier periods, i wanted to ask about the context of said samples
Seulo Caves - Stampu Erdi / natural cave 1600-1300BC Nuragic I (n=1)
Perdasdefogu S'Orcu 'e Tueri / natural cave 1400-1000BC Nuragic I-III (n=5)
Seulo Caves - Su Asedazzu / small cave and rockshelter 1400-900BC Nuragic I-III (n=3)
Is Arutas / natural cave 1300-1000BC Nuragic III (n=2)
Ingurtosu Mannu / chamber tomb (giants tomb) 1200-1000BC Nuragic III (n=1)
Perdasdefogu ?S'Orcu 'e Tueri / natural cave 1200-1000BC Nuragic III (n=1)
Lu Maccioni / natural cave 1100-800BC Nuragic III (n=2)
easy to notice that alot of these samples(x1) are from caves or cave-burials _so question: was that a standad practice during the nuragic times or are these samples fringe/outliers of said civ.? one sample does however derive from a 'giants tomb' but did not differ from the rest;
now the reason behind all of that is that they also had samples from earlier periods, 4000BC neolithic for example, and what they revealed was that the nuragic sards were derived(in continuity) from these earlier pops. all the way back to the neolithic; and that would now debunk(concl.) the whole 'srdn/sherden from the east' (spec. into Nuragic III) theory, since there were no signs of breaks and of migrants, and hence manifest the whole 'srdn/sherden from sardinia' concept !unless ofcourse these samples are fringe/outliers of said culture and thus not actually repr.; so what do you reckon, are these sites repr. for the nuragic period or rather fringe?
in addendum the Bonnanaro(A-B) samples 2/3 were also from caves but 1/3 (higher than for the nuragic set) were from necropoleis (rock-carved tombs) 3x Su Crucifissu Mannu 2300-1700BC and 1x S'Iscia 'e sas Piras 2300-2100BC