The Pelasgians

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Populations identified as "Pelasgian" spoke a language or languages that at the time Greeks identified as barbaric, even though some ancient writers described the Pelasgians as Greeks.
 
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Populations identified as "Pelasgian" spoke a language or languages that at the time Greeks identified as barbaric, even though some ancient writers described the Pelasgians as Greeks.
That may be, perhaps, because they were the indigenous population of the Southern Balkans prior to the Indo-European/Proto-Greek arrivals into the region. Classical Greeks were most certainly an amalgamation of the indigenous (what we might refer to as "Pelasgian") pre-Indo-European tribes and the Proto-Greek tribes that settled the region in the 3rd and 2nd millennium BC. After several centuries of assimilation, the indigenous population gradually adopted the Greek language, and in the eyes of later chroniclers may have been regarded as Greeks by then. But who really knows what truly transpired during those "dark ages" of Greek historiography.
 
Jul 2019
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Abidjan
Like ancient Egyptian and Sumerian I believe
false , sumerian is linked to tamil
sumerian are dravidians they are blacks
Sumerians genetically related to Tamil
https: //www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4192148/
Linguistic and genetic evidence linking Sumer and Tamil
It is proved beyond any doubt that links existed between the Sumerians and the Indians. Indians (including inhabitants of the Indus Valley) cultivated sesame for oil as early as 3000 BC [1].
There was evidence suggesting that the Sumer were negotiating with India (the Indus Valley). One of the interesting commercial items was "sesame oil". Indians (including inhabitants of the Indus Valley) cultivated sesame for oil.


It is well known that the Sumerian word for sesame oil is "ilu" and that its Akkadian equivalent is "ellu". Interestingly, the Tamil word for sesame oil is also "ellu". Archaeologists use this as proof that sesame was introduced to Sumer in India. This also establishes the idea that there was a close connection between Sumer and the Indians / Tamils [2].
https://www.harappa.com/answers/what...dus-people-eat
Genetic evidence linking Sumer and Tamil
There are many ancient DNA studies aimed at understanding the origin of the Sumerian civilization and its people. Recently, a study based on "the ancient Mesopotamian mitochondrial genomes" suggested a genetic link between the Indian subcontinent (mainly the southern region) and the Mesopotamian civilization [3]. These two evidences establish at least a commercial link between these two persons
.https: //www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4192148/

the Sumerians identified themselves as a race a distinct people, the Accadians called them nisi zalmat qaqqadu which means race with black heads and the accadians considered them as a distinct people Sargon distinctly conceived them of the people of Accadia the Sumerians considered themselves to be a great people with black heads, people with black people sag meaning person, ga meaning people as with relation to a leader like people with sipa sag gig ga meaning shepherd with black heads another name of the god of the sky it is an ethnic group Dravidian as there were in Iran (Elamites and Aratteens, Koutcheen people ...) and in India the Dravidians recall moreover that their ancestors believed in An, in heaven and recognized him three states Vaan An the god of heaven in as god of the sky, the blue sky, An Sooryan the god of heaven as god of light, and An Pandyan the god of heaven as god of rain

the Sumerian is besides a Tamil language
arukan Sumerian arhus 'benevolent person'. Tamil avvai Sumerian. abbe 'to speak'. Tamil aakkiNai, aaNai, aknja Sumerian agga, aga 'command'. Tamil akki Sumerian igi 'eye'. Tamil ukkiram Sumerian ug-gu 'furious'. Tamil uruttiran Sumerian urudu 'copper'. Sumerian ulaku uku, uku-lu 'people'. katai Sumerian ka-ta-a-a 'willed self expression'.Tamil karumam Sumerian gar-u 'to set up'.Tamil kuNam Sumerian gun 'multi-colored'.Tamil ciilam Sumerian silim 'greetings, decree'. Tamil carvam Sumerian sar-ra 'all'. Tamil cakkaram Sumerian sukur 'weapon, javeline'. Tamil cakalam Sumerian sugil 'all'. Tamil cettu, cittam Sumerian sid, sed, to think, reckon, recite etc. Tamil ceesu ciidan, Sumerian ses Tamil sisya his 'brother, child' taaram Sumerian dam 'wife'. Tamil tamaram Sumerian damhara 'battle, war' Tamil ticai Smerien. te 'direction, Sumerian manuci Tamil manusi' woman '. Tamil ciivan Sumerian zi 'life'.Tamil caalai Sumerian sila 'road'.Tamil kaNi, kaNitam Sumerian kin 'to reckon'.
 
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Tulius

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false , sumerian is linked to tamil

sumerian are dravidians they are blacks
Sumerians genetically related to Tamil
https: //www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4192148/
Linguistic and genetic evidence linking Sumer and Tamil
It is proved beyond any doubt that links existed between the Sumerians and the Indians. Indians (including inhabitants of the Indus Valley) cultivated sesame for oil as early as 3000 BC [1].
There was evidence suggesting that the Sumer were negotiating with India (the Indus Valley). One of the interesting commercial items was "sesame oil". Indians (including inhabitants of the Indus Valley) cultivated sesame for oil.


It is well known that the Sumerian word for sesame oil is "ilu" and that its Akkadian equivalent is "ellu". Interestingly, the Tamil word for sesame oil is also "ellu". Archaeologists use this as proof that sesame was introduced to Sumer in India. This also establishes the idea that there was a close connection between Sumer and the Indians / Tamils [2].
https://www.harappa.com/answers/what...dus-people-eat
Genetic evidence linking Sumer and Tamil
There are many ancient DNA studies aimed at understanding the origin of the Sumerian civilization and its people. Recently, a study based on "the ancient Mesopotamian mitochondrial genomes" suggested a genetic link between the Indian subcontinent (mainly the southern region) and the Mesopotamian civilization [3]. These two evidences establish at least a commercial link between these two persons
.https: //www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4192148/

the Sumerians identified themselves as a race a distinct people, the Accadians called them nisi zalmat qaqqadu which means race with black heads and the accadians considered them as a distinct people Sargon distinctly conceived them of the people of Accadia the Sumerians considered themselves to be a great people with black heads, people with black people sag meaning person, ga meaning people as with relation to a leader like people with sipa sag gig ga meaning shepherd with black heads another name of the god of the sky it is an ethnic group Dravidian as there were in Iran (Elamites and Aratteens, Koutcheen people ...) and in India the Dravidians recall moreover that their ancestors believed in An, in heaven and recognized him three states Vaan An the god of heaven in as god of the sky, the blue sky, An Sooryan the god of heaven as god of light, and An Pandyan the god of heaven as god of rain

the Sumerian is besides a Tamil language
arukan Sumerian arhus 'benevolent person'. Tamil avvai Sumerian. abbe 'to speak'. Tamil aakkiNai, aaNai, aknja Sumerian agga, aga 'command'. Tamil akki Sumerian igi 'eye'. Tamil ukkiram Sumerian ug-gu 'furious'. Tamil uruttiran Sumerian urudu 'copper'. Sumerian ulaku uku, uku-lu 'people'. katai Sumerian ka-ta-a-a 'willed self expression'.Tamil karumam Sumerian gar-u 'to set up'.Tamil kuNam Sumerian gun 'multi-colored'.Tamil ciilam Sumerian silim 'greetings, decree'. Tamil carvam Sumerian sar-ra 'all'. Tamil cakkaram Sumerian sukur 'weapon, javeline'. Tamil cakalam Sumerian sugil 'all'. Tamil cettu, cittam Sumerian sid, sed, to think, reckon, recite etc. Tamil ceesu ciidan, Sumerian ses Tamil sisya his 'brother, child' taaram Sumerian dam 'wife'. Tamil tamaram Sumerian damhara 'battle, war' Tamil ticai Smerien. te 'direction, Sumerian manuci Tamil manusi' woman '. Tamil ciivan Sumerian zi 'life'.Tamil caalai Sumerian sila 'road'.Tamil kaNi, kaNitam Sumerian kin 'to reckon'.

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Naomasa298

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Apr 2010
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false , sumerian is linked to tamil
sumerian are dravidians they are blacks
Sumerians genetically related to Tamil
https: //www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4192148/
Linguistic and genetic evidence linking Sumer and Tamil
It is proved beyond any doubt that links existed between the Sumerians and the Indians. Indians (including inhabitants of the Indus Valley) cultivated sesame for oil as early as 3000 BC [1].
There was evidence suggesting that the Sumer were negotiating with India (the Indus Valley). One of the interesting commercial items was "sesame oil". Indians (including inhabitants of the Indus Valley) cultivated sesame for oil.


It is well known that the Sumerian word for sesame oil is "ilu" and that its Akkadian equivalent is "ellu". Interestingly, the Tamil word for sesame oil is also "ellu". Archaeologists use this as proof that sesame was introduced to Sumer in India. This also establishes the idea that there was a close connection between Sumer and the Indians / Tamils [2].
https://www.harappa.com/answers/what...dus-people-eat
Genetic evidence linking Sumer and Tamil
There are many ancient DNA studies aimed at understanding the origin of the Sumerian civilization and its people. Recently, a study based on "the ancient Mesopotamian mitochondrial genomes" suggested a genetic link between the Indian subcontinent (mainly the southern region) and the Mesopotamian civilization [3]. These two evidences establish at least a commercial link between these two persons
.https: //www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4192148/

the Sumerians identified themselves as a race a distinct people, the Accadians called them nisi zalmat qaqqadu which means race with black heads and the accadians considered them as a distinct people Sargon distinctly conceived them of the people of Accadia the Sumerians considered themselves to be a great people with black heads, people with black people sag meaning person, ga meaning people as with relation to a leader like people with sipa sag gig ga meaning shepherd with black heads another name of the god of the sky it is an ethnic group Dravidian as there were in Iran (Elamites and Aratteens, Koutcheen people ...) and in India the Dravidians recall moreover that their ancestors believed in An, in heaven and recognized him three states Vaan An the god of heaven in as god of the sky, the blue sky, An Sooryan the god of heaven as god of light, and An Pandyan the god of heaven as god of rain

the Sumerian is besides a Tamil language
arukan Sumerian arhus 'benevolent person'. Tamil avvai Sumerian. abbe 'to speak'. Tamil aakkiNai, aaNai, aknja Sumerian agga, aga 'command'. Tamil akki Sumerian igi 'eye'. Tamil ukkiram Sumerian ug-gu 'furious'. Tamil uruttiran Sumerian urudu 'copper'. Sumerian ulaku uku, uku-lu 'people'. katai Sumerian ka-ta-a-a 'willed self expression'.Tamil karumam Sumerian gar-u 'to set up'.Tamil kuNam Sumerian gun 'multi-colored'.Tamil ciilam Sumerian silim 'greetings, decree'. Tamil carvam Sumerian sar-ra 'all'. Tamil cakkaram Sumerian sukur 'weapon, javeline'. Tamil cakalam Sumerian sugil 'all'. Tamil cettu, cittam Sumerian sid, sed, to think, reckon, recite etc. Tamil ceesu ciidan, Sumerian ses Tamil sisya his 'brother, child' taaram Sumerian dam 'wife'. Tamil tamaram Sumerian damhara 'battle, war' Tamil ticai Smerien. te 'direction, Sumerian manuci Tamil manusi' woman '. Tamil ciivan Sumerian zi 'life'.Tamil caalai Sumerian sila 'road'.Tamil kaNi, kaNitam Sumerian kin 'to reckon'.

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