The Vedic Pakhtas

Jun 2019
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India
Vedic Pakhtas are not directly connected to Pashtuns and the ethnonym Pashtun is derived from the of Iranian word Parsawa and has the same root like "Persian".
The persians derive their name from the region Parsua in iran it . The term itself is derived from parsu meaning axe in both old sanskrit and old avestan. It meant mighty axe wielder. Ex Parsuram or ram with the axe.
 

Aupmanyav

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Jun 2014
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No they did not migrate out of India they migrated from Bakhtar where they split from the Indo-Aryans and for lack of a better term central Aryans.
:) There is a term which defines the Aryans before bifurcation - Indo-Iranians (Aryans), the Central Asian Aryans.
Persuas, Medes (Māda-) and Pakthas were different tribes than Aryans and Scythians, though neighbors and operating in adjascent regions.
 
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Aatreya

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Dec 2014
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:) There is a term which defines the Aryans before bifurcation - Indo-Iranians (Aryans), the Central Asian Aryans.
Persuas, Medes (Māda-) and Pakthas were different tribes than Aryans and Scythians, though neighbors and operating in adjascent regions.
Do not go too far. There is one term that defines Aryans - Vedic people.
 

Aupmanyav

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Jun 2014
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Gujars, IMHO, may be Qajars of Iran. But there is a problem in this supposition. Qajars in Iran are a small tribe.
"The Qajars (Persian: ایل قاجار); also spelled Kadjars, Kajars, Kadzhars, Cadzhars, Cadjars, Ghajars and so on) are a Turkic Oghuz tribe who lived variously, with other tribes, in the area that is now Armenia, Azerbaijan and northwestern Iran. With the advent of the Safavid era, they had split into several factions. These included the Ziyādoghlu (Ziādlu), associated with the area of Ganja and Yerevan, as well as the Qoyunlu (Qāvānlu), and Davālu (Devehlu) the latter two associated with the northern areas of contemporary Iran. .. In 1794, a Qajar chieftain, Agha Mohammed, member of the Qoyunlu branch of the Qajars, founded the Qajar dynasty in Iran."
Qajars (tribe) - Wikipedia
 
Jun 2019
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singapor
Gujars, IMHO, may be Qajars of Iran. But there is a problem in this supposition. Qajars in Iran are a small tribe.
"The Qajars (Persian: ایل قاجار); also spelled Kadjars, Kajars, Kadzhars, Cadzhars, Cadjars, Ghajars and so on) are a Turkic Oghuz tribe who lived variously, with other tribes, in the area that is now Armenia, Azerbaijan and northwestern Iran. With the advent of the Safavid era, they had split into several factions. These included the Ziyādoghlu (Ziādlu), associated with the area of Ganja and Yerevan, as well as the Qoyunlu (Qāvānlu), and Davālu (Devehlu) the latter two associated with the northern areas of contemporary Iran. .. In 1794, a Qajar chieftain, Agha Mohammed, member of the Qoyunlu branch of the Qajars, founded the Qajar dynasty in Iran."
Qajars (tribe) - Wikipedia
Maybe gujjars are spread in all suth asia and biggest tribe caste of south asia
https://historum.com/threads/gujjars-are-biggest-tribe-of-south-asia.179221