The war of American independence was won mainly by the help of Spain,

Jan 2014
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Spain helped the citizens of the thirteen colonies with money, arms, ammunition, blankets and clothes, and eventually, with direct military assistance. As George Washington himself recognized, without Spain’s help he would not have won the war Spanish aid in Spain’s war of independence was twice the Spanish GDP today.

the Americans used as currency the Real a Ocho (the first international currency in the history, the Dollar Symbol is because of this currency), the Spaniards had captured numerous English fortresses throughout the Missouri, conquered florida, captured the greatest English convoy ever seen and financed totally the battle of Yorktown.

one of the greatest disasters in the history of England, the Action of 9 August 1780, Spain captures a huge English convoy, with 80000 muskets, 1 billion pounds in gold and 1400 English officers who were to reinforce the British in the war of independence.


The Military Campaign of Bernardo de Gálvez
The victories wrought by Bernardo de Gálvez against the English freed the Mississippi and the Gulf of Mexico for the cause of the American independence.
When Bernardo de Gálvez received the order from Charles III to take military action against England in support of American Independence, he planned a strategy that has been subsequently recognized and admired in military circles. In a quick and audacious campaign, he took the English forts of Fort Bute, Baton Rouge, and Fort Panmure de Natchez that protected the banks of the Mississippi. The strategy consisted in liberating and clearing the most important waterways for communication. This enabled them to strategically control the area, which in turn propitiated the final victory of the American independence. The victory of the Battle of Fort Charlotte (February, 1780), which protected the strategic city of Mobile, proved to be decisive in the security of New Orleans, which was at the time, the most important Spanish bastion in the area, and it also enabled the subsequent attack on Pensacola, (March, 1781), the last British enclave in the Gulf of Mexico.

Spain financed the Battle of Yorktown
When the situation was desperate. From New Spain came the money and the French and American armies could feed themselves. However in the history of U. S although Spain the protagonist this has been omitted. Yorktown’s situation seemed the end But the Supplies from New Spain The US corsairs were also helped and protected But it was much more Spain Break English blockade, plus Won decisive battles And The Ladies' money from Havana (Cuba) was the final point, to win the War of Independence of the 13 colonies.
France was already exhausted and with the treasury coffers empty, its navy inferior to the English fleet, without sufficient bases in America, owed the wages to its soldiers and sailors.
George Washington asked the French for money, but they couldn’t give it to him.Their poorly stocked army and their unpaid soldiers began to desert.

Spain paid the French sailors and soldiers, supplied their ships, paid the salaries of the American soldiers and won the battle and the Independence of the United States
 
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Jul 2011
6,051
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Spain played a role, and captured Florida back for itself. Florida was eventually ceded back to the US as part of a treaty agreeing to the boundary with New Spain / Mexico. Spain eventually lost New Spain and the US moved in on that too. I agree on 1898.

It wasn't mainly Spain. France paid a bigger role. Also, France got openly involved after Saratoga, and it isn't certain the colonies would lose the war without open foreign help. Without covert aid from France, Spain, and Holland, it is likely the British would have won.
 
Jan 2014
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poio
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the main aid was Spain, not France. Especially because France in the Treaty of Paris of 1763 did not have territories in North America. Most of North America was Spanish and was the one who could best help. the currency was Spanish, the best ports to hide corsairs and repair American ships were Spanish and the economic aid was huge.

Yorktown was paid by the Spanish, the large convoy captured with 1 million pounds of gold, 80000 muskets and 1400 officers was captured thanks to Spain and Georges Washington, recognised that the Spanish aid was the most important and on 4 July the main responsible for the American independence is not named, that is, Spain
 

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Jul 2011
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Spain did not send an army and a fleet.

A relative of mine did research on this, and I agree that Spanish aid had a big effect which has been underplayed. Spain was also gaining territory for itself from the British.
 
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While I don't agree that Spain's aid was more important than France's, it wouldn't look good to admit the extent of foreign assistance. It also would make 1898 look worse.
 
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The Military Campaign of Bernardo de Gálvez
The victories wrought by Bernardo de Gálvez against the English freed the Mississippi and the Gulf of Mexico for the cause of the American independence.
When Bernardo de Gálvez received the order from Charles III to take military action against England in support of American Independence, he planned a strategy that has been subsequently recognized and admired in military circles. In a quick and audacious campaign, he took the English forts of Fort Bute, Baton Rouge, and Fort Panmure de Natchez that protected the banks of the Mississippi. The strategy consisted in liberating and clearing the most important waterways for communication. This enabled them to strategically control the area, which in turn propitiated the final victory of the American independence. The victory of the Battle of Fort Charlotte (February, 1780), which protected the strategic city of Mobile, proved to be decisive in the security of New Orleans, which was at the time, the most important Spanish bastion in the area, and it also enabled the subsequent attack on Pensacola, (March, 1781), the last British enclave in the Gulf of Mexico.

Bernardo de Gálvez's campaign was by no means quick, the fighting in West florida lasted for three years and the loyalist/British/German/Native defenders were cut off, surrounded and outnumbered the entire time
 

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