Ukraine: epic street battle

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Frank81

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Feb 2010
5,052
Canary Islands-Spain
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I'm totally shocked after watching this incredible battle

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First, those Policemen have BALLS.

Second, the scenes reminds me on many pre-gunpowder clashes.
 

Tulun

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Nov 2010
3,819
Western Eurasia
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oh dear...we will have a cold winter. i hope the Ukrainian troubles won't disturb the gas delivery through it from Russia.
 
Oct 2012
1,266
SF bay area
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I don't understand such passive police tactics.
In most places there would be fire hoses brought out to push the mob back. Their passivity just seemed to encourage more violence against them. But maybe in a battle of ideas the existence of this video might be a big victory for the cops.

I support the protester's cause, but not their tactics. That behavior is likely to come back at them or their cause.
 
Dec 2011
1,219
Great Tartary
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Police are mercenaries who are defendind ruling class (oligarchs and politicans) and their interests. They pretty much deserve all of the beating, even when their 'opponents' are a rabid dogs. In fact, I'd say, both sides deserve each other.
 
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mansamusa

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Mar 2012
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I don't understand such passive police tactics.
In most places there would be fire hoses brought out to push the mob back. Their passivity just seemed to encourage more violence against them. But maybe in a battle of ideas the existence of this video might be a big victory for the cops.

I support the protester's cause, but not their tactics. That behavior is likely to come back at them or their cause.
And what is their cause? Freezing to death for the sake of the EU. The government of Ukraine would love to sign this agreement with the EU but the Russians have made them realize this would mean paying full market price for gas which Ukraine cannot afford. These protesters are protesting against sane and rational government. Why do they deserve anyone to support their cause?
 
Oct 2012
1,266
SF bay area
#7
Police are mercenaries who are defendind ruling class (oligarchs and politicans) and their interests. They pretty much deserve all of the beating, even when their 'opponents' are a rabid dogs. In fact, I'd say, both sides deserve each other.
Aren't "police" also defenders of the peoples interests in Communist countries, defenders of gods laws and public order in theocratic countries as well as public servants in orderly socialist states?

Cops are cops, as long as humans are humans cops will be necessary.

There is an acquaintance I once met who told the story about the day he ran away from home (his dad was a police chief) - his dad told him "no matter how far you go, or where you go, remember, you're on some cop's beat."
 
Oct 2012
1,266
SF bay area
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And what is their cause? Freezing to death for the sake of the EU. The government of Ukraine would love to sign this agreement with the EU but the Russians have made them realize this would mean paying full market price for gas which Ukraine cannot afford. These protesters are protesting against sane and rational government. Why do they deserve anyone to support their cause?
You have a much different view of Russian rule (Czarist, Marxist or Putinist) than most anyone else. Why is this? You do know that Russia isn't a communist haven anymore don't you?

Market rate? ha ha
It's extortion beyond a shadow of a doubt.
 
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