UNESCO Nanjing Massacre

Zoopiter

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Apr 2012
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UNESCO has register China's Nanjing Massacre document into the UNESCO. Not surprisingly, the Japanese side protest and claim the document submitted has integrity and authenticity problem. Japan even threatened to end funding to UNESCO.

An earlier statement from Japanese foreign press secretary Yasuhisa Kawamura said, "the government of Japan believes that there are obvious problems with the documents' integrity and authenticity."
Tokyo slams UNESCO in row over Nanjing massacre documents - CNN.com

So here is what being said about the Nanjing Massacre document submitted to UNESCO.
http://www.unesco.org/new/fileadmin...pdf/mow/nomination_forms/china_nanjing_en.pdf

Documents of Nanjing Massacre | United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization

Which one is the one with integrity problem?
 

Zoopiter

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Apr 2012
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Japanese statement protesting UNESCO registration of Nanjing Massacre docs backfires

Documents the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs and experts submitted to UNESCO in protest of its registration of China's "Documents of Nanjing Massacre" in its Memory of the World (MOW) program are backfiring, as it includes a statement that cites a scholar known for views denying that the massacre even took place.

The statement in question was compiled by Meisei University professor Shiro Takahashi, and was submitted in late September to the International Advisory Committee of the MOW Program alongside a statement from Kuni Sato of Japan's permanent delegation to UNESCO.

Based on his own analysis of a portion of the documents submitted by China to UNESCO for the Nanjing Massacre's registration in the MOW program that was released to the public, Takahashi wrote that it was impossible to determine the authenticity of the contents.

The statement not only noted the "publication of a book in which some 100 Japanese soldiers deny that such a 'massacre' took place," but also stated that the contents of a diary kept by a Chinese woman who was in Nanjing at the time was mostly based on hearsay. Furthermore, Takahashi cited Shudo Higashinakano -- a professor at Asia University known for his views denying the Nanjing Massacre -- and expressed doubts about the dates of the photos China submitted to UNESCO and their relation to the massacre.

As for the lieutenant general from the Imperial Japanese Army who was sentenced to death in the Nanjing War Crimes Tribunal for masterminding the killing of 300,000 Chinese, Takahashi concluded, "His troops were ordered to change course when they were 500 meters inside the City Wall of Nanjing, so it was physically impossible to carry out a massacre."

University of Shizuoka professor Hisaki Kenmochi, whose research focuses on comparisons between interpretations of history in Europe, Japan, China and South Korea, said he was concerned about the image Takahashi's statement may give to the world. "The statement gives the impression that Japan is siding with the school of thought that the Nanjing Massacre didn't take place. This makes it possible for the world to view the situation as the same as the school of thought denying that the Holocaust ever took place."

Hirotaka Watanabe, an international relations professor at Tokyo University of Foreign Studies, also expressed his misgivings, saying, "There's a possibility that the statement made the world's impression of Japan worse, which is the opposite of what the Japanese government meant to do."

Takahashi, however, is unmoved by his critics. "People may criticize Higashinakano's scholarship, but I believe that what I cited from his work has been verified." Meanwhile, a source from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said, "Takahashi maintains a good balance compared to other conservative scholars."

The Japanese government officially recognizes that it cannot deny that Japanese soldiers killed Chinese civilians and looted in Nanjing. In the 2010 Japan-China Joint History Research Committee meeting, scholars from the Japanese side set the maximum possible number of civilian victims at 200,000, with estimates of around 40,000 or 20,000. The Chinese scholars of the committee maintained that at least 300,000 were killed.

On Nov. 5, Japanese Minister of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology Hiroshi Hase made a speech at UNESCO's General Conference in Paris, and urged party states to engage in debate to improve the MOW registration process, including increased transparency.
Japanese statement protesting UNESCO registration of Nanjing Massacre docs backfires - ????
 
Oct 2015
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Japan should learn from Germany, to accept the truth that the Nanjing Massacre (南京大屠殺) did indeed happen, much like the Holocaust did. All the odds are turned against them with evidence in black and white.

And then what be like Germans, let the Chinese walk all over them and have their own holocaust laws where if one person has a thought that contrary to the law goes to jail, let immigrants live their land and rape them, hell no. Look we all did terrible **** and Japan apologize to the Chinese time and time again, hell Taiwan which is the true China actually forgave Japan. You see this all about China holding moral dominance over Japan which Japan will not give in too, so I hope Japan continue fight against China pity party.
 

heylouis

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And then what be like Germans, let the Chinese walk all over them and have their own holocaust laws where if one person has a thought that contrary to the law goes to jail, let immigrants live their land and rape them, hell no. Look we all did terrible **** and Japan apologize to the Chinese time and time again, hell Taiwan which is the true China actually forgave Japan. You see this all about China holding moral dominance over Japan which Japan will not give in too, so I hope Japan continue fight against China pity party.
chinese people hate this kind intention much more than the massacres in the old page of history.

fight communism, fine, fight cpc, fine. but fight the Chinese cpc party *by* denying the Nanjing massacre? what is the relationship between them to the end? (note although there had been Japanese people apologized, but their actions now are questioned by the new gov and they were viewed trouble makers and even traitors in Japan)

it is quite pity to say "fighting" China without the proper reason(even it is just namely as "communism is bad", that is much better).
 
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Japan's behavior is especially hypocritical given that it tried to nominate documents having to do with Russia's use of Japanese prisoners for forced labor for UNESCO. East Asian states have a lot to learn when it comes to "face," and Japan, as the first to modernize, is not setting a compelling example for democracy being the path to liberalism.
 
Jan 2019
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And then what be like Germans, let the Chinese walk all over them and have their own holocaust laws where if one person has a thought that contrary to the law goes to jail, let immigrants live their land and rape them, hell no. Look we all did terrible **** and Japan apologize to the Chinese time and time again, hell Taiwan which is the true China actually forgave Japan. You see this all about China holding moral dominance over Japan which Japan will not give in too, so I hope Japan continue fight against China pity party.
This is not moral dominance. I am Taiwanese and your theory does not make sense. Taiwan never thought Taiwan is true China, Taiwan is Taiwan not China. And the massacare didnt happened in Taiwan so of course we have nothing against Japan. say Japan go to your country and kill and massacare your people and families, base on your theory, I think you might not even hold grudge against them and but thankful to them.
 

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