US-Cuba vs. UK-Argentine relations

Nov 2010
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Is a key difference between United States-Cuba relations (between the late 1800s and 1959) and United Kingdom-Argentina relations (in the 19th and early/mid 20th centuries) that the US exerted much political as well as economic influence in Cuba while the UK exerted just economic influence in Argentina?

I suppose that if British soldiers had prevailed over the local militias in 1807 in Buenos Aires, then UK-Argentina relations would have been more exactly like US-Cuba relations (assuming that Argentina still becomes independent within the next 5-10 years after 1807)?
 

pikeshot1600

Ad Honorem
Jul 2009
9,958
The key difference was proximity. Cuba is 90 miles from the US while Argentina is thousands of miles from Britain. Cuba lies across the entrance to the Gulf of Mexico and is of major strategic significance. What happened politically in Cuba was of more importance to us than what happened in Argentina, and economically Cuba would always be affected economically by the much larger country to its north - positively or negatively.

For Britain Argentina was a market, and fertile ground for investment (rail, agriculture, some industrial, etc.). Strategically and therefore politically Argentina was of little importance to the UK except in regard to opportunity for profit and the repayment of debts.
 
Jul 2017
335
Argentina
Pike made good observations.
Still, don't understand the first question.
YD, Why do unitedstaters interest in that? Uk had lots of colonies in that period, as well as markets to put their manufactures and investments. US showed their political interests in lots of countries. Why do you compare Cuba with Argentina?
 

betgo

Ad Honorem
Jul 2011
6,329
The US "liberated" Cuba in the Spanish American War and afterwards dominated it until Castro. It was considered unusual at the time that the US did not make Cuba a territory, as it did other Spanish colonies.

It would have been difficult to continuously fight independence forces, and quasi-independence was ideal for US sugar interests and other business interests. It was easy to control a dictator and exert influence through the US government. It was more difficult to deal directly with US government regulations or certainly the Spanish government. The US still has a base in Cuba. The Cuban Constitution originally included clauses giving the US specific powers.

Cuba sort of kept getting out of the frying pan into the fire with the Spanish, then the US, and then the Soviets.

After the Spanish American countries became independent, foreign powers had influence, at first Britain was the most important power, then the US. The US has had relatively little influence in Argentina, but I am also not sure why those two countries were picked.