US 'war on terror' has killed over half a million people in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq

Feb 2018
59
Hong Kong
What's Islam got to do with America wanting oil and for their CIA puppet state leaders controlling the Central Asian, Caspian oil pipeline?

What did Islam have to do with the Iraq war? Saddam was not a practicing muslim and didn't do anything for religious purposes?

What's Islam got to do with America deliberately getting involved in every Mid East conflict on an entirely different continent bombing the crap out of countries who have no hope of fighting back?

............. none, that's what.

Islam is weaponized the same way the Irish weaponized Irish independence.

Your hatred for Islam is well documented Kandal but if you insert it in a topic where its not got any true relevance bar cheap media headlines then I'm going to out you every time.

............. or are you going to blame Islam for Vietnam as well?
who needs controlling the Central Asian, Caspian oil pipeline when you are the biggest Energy Producer?
 
Feb 2018
59
Hong Kong
............ but think of how far down the line we are for those instances to happen.

Do a body count over the decades of Western involvement in the Middle East prior to Charlie Hebdo, is hundreds of thousands of women, children and men not quite enough to warrant extremism?

Should they be waiting till its a million dead before they lose it?

The fact is Islamic terrorists are targeting Western countries, they don't bother South America, or Russia, China or Africa, ask yourself why? Islam is just the rallying call for their extremism, its the structure they use, the chain of command to set up an organisation .......... organisations funded by the CIA may I add.

I'm not saying Islam doesn't have issues, Christianity has issues as well if you follow it by the letter, but the issue here isn't Islam, its America killing civilians, creating the extremism and not expecting a reprisal and acting shocked when it happens.
"They don't bother South America, or Russia, China "

Islamists did attacked Russian Targets

For case of Double standards regarding to China, I want to know, may be Red Chinese survillence technologies truly works.

22 eerie photos show how China uses facial recognition to track its citizens as they travel, shop — and even use toilet paper
 
Feb 2018
59
Hong Kong
Americans are Knights in shining armour, so says kandal. You have painted a very rosy picture but If i am not wrong , more than two million lives were lost in Korean War and more than a million lives lost in Vietnam war, part of the cold war between America and Soviet Union.

And Uncle Sam is not sinless promoter of peace and stability. In the name of national interests , America interferes in countries all around the world, some times destabilizing the region and promoting war and chaos there, some times restoring peace, some times supporting democracy, some times backing monarchy/dictatorship, some times supporting Islamist and some times going against secular elements.

Finally you are pointing , promptly, fingers to the Communist Russians/Geogians, and Chinese.
 
Aug 2014
1,079
pakistan
Finally you are pointing , promptly, fingers to the Communist Russians/Geogians, and Chinese.
Chinese, being atheists and anti-theists, are extremely harsh against Uighur Muslims and are violating human rights there but i am not discussing them, the topic is about America/Americans so lets stick to that.
 
Sep 2012
3,598
Bulgaria
Finally you are pointing , promptly, fingers to the Communist Russians/Geogians, and Chinese.
During 80's conflict in the area Americans were most certainly the knights in shining armour for the mujahideen, you know the guys from whom the Taliban evolved from. I wonder having insight about what happened latter, after all bin Laden was a mujahid, what would happen if the US supported Najibullah and govn forces instead of the other side of the conflict (and Soviets in this proxy conflict as odd as it seems)
 
Aug 2014
1,079
pakistan
America is world's peace keeper, just as Britain was before. There are people so jealous of this role of America. There is no easy cure for this kind of jealousy.
Very Juvenile thing to say.

Sometimes millions get killed to bring about a just world. Some 60 million got killed in the WW2.
WWII was not about bringing just to the world, it was a senseless war and millions died senselessly. And in the end days of war, America emerged as biggest threat to humanity and existence of this world.

There is always a price to pay for the right cause. Sometimes it is not worth the price. For example, one million got killed to create Muslim Pakistan, a failed state and a terror sponsoring country.
Its the Indian inside you speaking. India is also a creation of British and most of the million people killed you are talking about, were Muslims slaughtered in East Punjab. It was just senseless killing , just like Gujarat riots of 2002.
 
Oct 2012
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Very Juvenile thing to say.


WWII was not about bringing just to the world, it was a senseless war and millions died senselessly. And in the end days of war, America emerged as biggest threat to humanity and existence of this world.


Its the Indian inside you speaking. India is also a creation of British and most of the million people killed you are talking about, were Muslims slaughtered in East Punjab. It was just senseless killing , just like Gujarat riots of 2002.
So stopping the nazis was sensless but kicking those blue-eyed,blonde , European jews out of Middle-East should be a top priority for the whole world?
 
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Sep 2012
3,598
Bulgaria
This is history forum right. One should start with XIX century Great Game cold war between Russian and British empires that led eventually to the creation of Afghanistan, then Ottoman defeat and partition of the empire after the great war and then jump to recently new cold war & XXI century events. Centuries of proxy conflicts between diff great powers. Central Asian Muslim-majority countries of today are pretty stable nowadays. One should ask yourself why and research the subject. It's laughable to claim that a certain religion is the source of the problems for the area in question.
 
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Jun 2012
7,066
Malaysia
In the 21st century, denying people's right to live in a particaluar place based on the fact that they do not look the way you like is inadmissible.
In the 21st century, denying people's right to live the way they choose, in a particular place where they have been indigenous for thousands of years, based on the fact that they do not look the way you like, is inadmissible.
 

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