Venezuela-Africa Oil Pipeline

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Ad Honorem
Oct 2016
3,048
Australia
#21
We seem to be having an influx of giant ocean spanning, desert flooding, underground tunneling , continental bridging wackiness lately .

It seems centered on alternative ideas that will not work and ignore the issue that there are already better systems in place to achieve the ends concerned .
 
Jul 2012
3,111
Dhaka
#22
So oil from Venezuela that gets loaded up in the Caribbean Sea is too slow to get to China because it has to pass through the Panama Canal, a whopping 600 miles away, before heading to the Pacific and the open ocean to sail west to China, so your answer is constructing a 3,000 mile pipeline to Africa?
There's a dimension restriction for vessels passing through Panama Canal. Super tankers can't get through the locks of the Canal. Chinese oil supply will be too slow across 15000 km long Pacific journey with smaller tankers.

There you go, language problem solved.
 
Jul 2016
8,711
USA
#23
There's a dimension restriction for vessels passing through Panama Canal. Super tankers can't get through the locks of the Canal. With smaller vessels, Chinese supply will be too slow across 15000 km long Pacific journey with smaller tankers.

There you go, language problem solved.
lol, first Panama Canal can now take super tankers. Second, your solution to a fictitious problem is a 3,000 mile oceanic pipeline to Western Africa, where oil is then loaded into supertankers for that quick voyage around Africa through Indian Ocean to China. ROFL
 
Jul 2012
3,111
Dhaka
#24
Compared to pumping to Western Sahara and shipping it from there?

China would fully control a pipeline crossing the Atlantic anyway. How much more vulnerable could you get than a pipeline in a politically unstable country crossing thousands of miles of ocean which could be ruptured by sea quakes are easily sabotaged, compared to simply pumping it from Russia or Libya or Iran or any number of other countries who are no friends of China's enemies.
If the US impose an oil embargo on China, they can shut down supply from all other sources except Russia. If China have to depend solely on Russia, Russia will get the upper hand in Sino-Rus relations that currently China enjoys.

The US will not attack a Chinese asset (i.e. pipeline) because that would mean WW3. Therefore the pipeline would be somewhat safe.

Atlantic is lot more stable than say Pacific, it should be doable technologically.

Western Sahara is a disputed territory that no one administers. With right kind of persuasion to involved parties, the Chinese can de facto own it.
 
Jul 2012
3,111
Dhaka
#25
lol, first Panama Canal can now take super tankers. Second, your solution to a fictitious problem is a 3,000 mile oceanic pipeline to Western Africa, where oil is then loaded into supertankers for that quick voyage around Africa through Indian Ocean to China. ROFL
Africa to Pakistan isn't that long a voyage.
 
Jul 2016
8,711
USA
#26
Africa to Pakistan isn't that long a voyage.
Good thing the Chinese are only a few more thousands of miles from China.

You're so bad at this. You falsely claim Panana Canal doesn't fit super tankers. Your fix is a multi part bit of ridiculousness, where the solution is a 3,000 mile long cross Atlantic pipeline to an unnamed African port city, where oil is then loaded into tankers, shipped around Africa to Pakistan, offloaded, no doubt then moved through a pipeline that isn't built to western China.

Why not cut out middleman and save a hundred billion by just taking the African tanker and launching it from Caracas, adding only seven days, not needing the infrastructure in Africa either, saving more money?

If that doesn't work you can propose the more direct route, tunnel straight through the planet from Venezuela to China. They can reinforce the tunnel with Moon rocks and metals mined from asteroids near Mars.
 
Oct 2012
574
#28
We seem to be having an influx of giant ocean spanning, desert flooding, underground tunneling , continental bridging wackiness lately .

It seems centered on alternative ideas that will not work and ignore the issue that there are already better systems in place to achieve the ends concerned .
Well, You have to dream big. Btw. I think we should have a thread about hover cars.
 
Jul 2016
8,711
USA
#29
That makes sense, in normal times.
But in abnormal times, the only clear solution to slight logistical issues of moving oil by sea through super tankers is building a major petroleum logistics port in western Africa, which will cost tens of billions at least, and then building a 3,000 mile deep ocean pipeline across the Atlantic, which will cost many hundreds of billions and probably take a decade at least.

Why not just lay a pipeline from Venezuela, hug the South American eastern coastline around the tip of Cape Horn, up the western side, then out through the Pacific all the way to China. That way they can efficiently export oil directly from Venezuela right to China!
 

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