You and every other Historum member wanting to debate this need to accept that Hitler wasn't the one who came up with lebensraum, the Nazis were far far far from the only ones promoting it.
I analyze the events and situation of 1939-1942 and study German documents, and I see that there were no signs of the movement of German settlers to Ukraine, the Baltic States and Poland. No sign. Maybe someone would find signs of this, then let him be voiced here. Old Ukrainians did not confirm this either, as they remember those years. I talked with many of them about the German and Russian occupation and they told a lot of things.
Moreover, the fact that in 1939 the Reich essentially abandoned just a half of the Polish lands, although it had an excellent opportunity to seize them, and gave way to both them and the three Baltic countries in the sphere of influence of Russia, suggests that the real intentions of the Germans were significantly different from those that are now being declared by both historians and Russian propaganda. Maybe the nazi athorities decided that in 1939-1940 Reich has got sufficient territory around Germany for such migration - I am not sure to find the correct version for that.
Of course, there was Rosenberg plan and plan Ost. But what were these plans? Were there any signs that these plans were systematically put into action?
No, I do not see such signs. Moreover, I do not see a single resolution of the highest German authorities for the Ost plan. None. And by the date, the Ost plan that we see is only a project of a second-rate SS official who sent it to his superiors without any move after that. So it serves just for a loud noise about the intentions of Reich to exterminate all Slavs, etc., etc.
Ukrainians - residents of a country that has been under German occupation for 3 years and a country through which the main shaft of battles has walked twice - in the forward and reverse direction - will tell you more.
The Germans did not destroy the Slavic population in this territory systematically or in some similar way. Moreover, they did not carry out mass actions against the Slavic population here, at least a little commensurate with the Holodomor action that the Moscow authorities held in 1932-1933, or the Great Purge of 1937-1938.
I absolutely do not sympathize with the Nazis, but at a historical forum it is necessary to separate propaganda from truth and speculation from facts. Neither Rosenberg’s plan nor Ost’s plan was put into operation. And since I happened to live in a totalitarian country — not in the Third Reich, but in the USSR — I know perfectly well how many plans such a country creates, and how few chances most of them have become reality.
Therefore, I suggest that less attention be paid to different Nazi plans — and more — to what they did during the war. The extermination of Jews and Gypsies - yes, they did this consistently and diligently. And the extermination of the Slavs-leave it to the Moscow propaganda.
Those old Ukrainians who remembered well the days of the occupation and with whom I spoke - and among them was my mother - tell differently about the Germans in Ukraine. And I do not see in their stories a single case of mass extermination of the Slavic population in the format of such a goal. Moreover, over time, the German occupation regime — at least in Ukraine — became more loyal to the local population. Reich was extremely short of Germans to form the occupation regime in all countries it captured - and they widely attracted the local population to their administration and police. In any case, this forced the Reich to reckon with the local population.
And I would, in the place of professional historians, less refer to the rosenbergs and ost plans. There are no signs that they had a chance for a valuable realization even if the Germans won in the east.
In the end, Germany needed Slavic workers for their industry and for Slavic peasants to grow high-quality food in Ukraine and the Kuban. And it would be foolish to exterminate the peaceful Ukrainian peasants against this background and force the Germans themselves to work instead of them