Was Battle of 10 kings a real battle at all ?

Aatreya

Ad Honorem
Dec 2014
3,544
USA
#62
It happens all the time in many parts of India - Krishnamachary Srikantha, Narendra Damodar Bhai Modi, Uddalaka Aruni. And Trita Aptya was not derived in that way - Sanskrit Dictionary for Spoken Sanskrit.
Ha ha ha, your delusions have no end. Your listing of modern and ancient names in one sentence and claiming that Trita Aptya was not derived that way clearly shows you have no clue (I'm not surprised). UddAlaka AruNi is UddAlaka, the son of AruNa. That's the way the Vedic names are constructed.
 
May 2019
1
New York USA
#64
nice post. I need help to know the role of Pakhta's in told holy Wars. I am told by a friend that it is mentioned that Pakhta came from Bolan and crossed the river to join the war and they were best in Horse ridding
 
Mar 2019
1,535
KL
#65
linking pakhta with pakhtun is conjecture at best, vedas are not source of history, not atleast in western scholarly eyes, if it was, indian historicity would far exceed buddha's period, but it doesnt. There is also a huge disagreement in fixing date of the vedas.

everything before buddha is considered pre historic. until we decipher indus script or any script predating birth of buddha.

regards
 
May 2019
51
Earth
#66
linking pakhta with pakhtun is conjecture at best, vedas are not source of history, not atleast in western scholarly eyes, if it was, indian historicity would far exceed buddha's period, but it doesnt. There is also a huge disagreement in fixing date of the vedas.

everything before buddha is considered pre historic. until we decipher indus script or any script predating birth of buddha.

regards
Even western historians considers this a historic Battle, we don't know when buddha was born as his birth year under serious debate as well and changed few times by historians.

Anything before jesus is pre historic and should be taken with pinch of salt.
 
May 2019
51
Earth
#67
nice post. I need help to know the role of Pakhta's in told holy Wars. I am told by a friend that it is mentioned that Pakhta came from Bolan and crossed the river to join the war and they were best in Horse ridding
They were one of the tribe a Vedic brahmin named Vishwamitra supposed to unite against king sudas for replacing him with Vashistha.

Vishwamitra was supposedly a Orthodox brahmin who considered non arya Indians neech-kul/sub humans and prayed to Indra for their destruction and distributing their wealth among Aryas, Vashistha was much more liberal who promoted idea of living together with conquered Native Aborigines by Bharatas and even mixing.

Pakhtas are also mentioned by Panini, a brahmin native to Khyber province in Pakistan. He also said that just near his village 2 warrior and hunter gathering tribes named Apriti(Afridi) and Madhumant(Mohammed) used to live in Asthadhyayi, he is the one created Sanskrit.
 

Aatreya

Ad Honorem
Dec 2014
3,544
USA
#68
They were one of the tribe a Vedic brahmin named Vishwamitra supposed to unite against king sudas for replacing him with Vashistha.

Vishwamitra was supposedly a Orthodox brahmin who considered non arya Indians neech-kul/sub humans and prayed to Indra for their destruction and distributing their wealth among Aryas, Vashistha was much more liberal who promoted idea of living together with conquered Native Aborigines by Bharatas and even mixing.

Pakhtas are also mentioned by Panini, a brahmin native to Khyber province in Pakistan. He also said that just near his village 2 warrior and hunter gathering tribes named Apriti(Afridi) and Madhumant(Mohammed) used to live in Asthadhyayi, he is the one created Sanskrit.
There is zero evidence for these conjectures.
 
Mar 2019
1,535
KL
#69
Even western historians considers this a historic Battle, we don't know when buddha was born as his birth year under serious debate as well and changed few times by historians.

Anything before jesus is pre historic and should be taken with pinch of salt.
why do you think that christian and jesus era is historic as well?

a stupa at nalanda has been dated to buddha's parinirvana 6-5th century BC, i think lets not argue dating, lets accept scientific evidences.

regards
 

Aupmanyav

Ad Honorem
Jun 2014
5,665
New Delhi, India
#70
Even western historians considers this a historic Battle, we don't know when buddha was born as his birth year under serious debate as well and changed few times by historians. Anything before jesus is pre historic and should be taken with pinch of salt.
It seems your interest in history is perfunctory. We have ample archaeological evidence all over the world to make reasonable guesses. Literature and even myths are an important source for history.



Jebel Irhoud-1, approx. 315,000 years old - Modern Humans (Homo sapien sapiens)

Lubang Jeriji Saléh, Indonesia, 40,000 year old.

Gobekli Tepe (9,000 BC and older)

Since the Battle of Ten Kings is so vividly described even to the number of participants (21 men of both Vaikarna tribes without a king), there is no reason to dismiss it out-of-hand.