Was Battle of 10 kings a real battle at all ?

Mar 2019
1,535
KL
#71
if not dismiss it, then mahabharatha, ramayana, puranic kingdoms before buddha must also be accepted as historic, the entire thing must be accepted or rejected and not cherry pick one account and accept it.

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Aupmanyav

Ad Honorem
Jun 2014
5,578
New Delhi, India
#72
Entirely or in various things? The religious may accept it entirely. The historian will accept some, dismiss others, based on what evidence he finds for it. There is no evidence for Vimanas and Brahmastras of Ramayana or Mahabharata.
 
Mar 2019
1,535
KL
#73
nobody is saying to accept vimanas, but the rulers and the histories mentioned in them, this would push indian historic era from buddha to 1500 BC at the very least. preferably 2500 or 2600 BC well into indus valley civilization.

attributing pakhtas as pakhtuns, parshus as persians, while completely rejecting any indian historic figures mentioned in puranas and epics is just cherry picking based on migrationist agenda. pakhtuns are not to be identified until as late as 1500 AD. there are several magadh dynasties alone which have been declared mythical which can be existing as early as second mil BC

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Aupmanyav

Ad Honorem
Jun 2014
5,578
New Delhi, India
#74
.. but the rulers and the histories mentioned in them, this would push Indian historic era from buddha to 1500 BC at the very least. preferably 2500 or 2600 BC well into indus valley civilization.

attributing pakhtas as pakhtuns, parshus as persians, while completely rejecting any indian historic figures mentioned in puranas and epics is just cherry picking based on migrationist agenda. pakhtuns are not to be identified until as late as 1500 AD. there are several magadh dynasties alone which have been declared mythical which can be existing as early as second mil BC.
The same rule will apply to rulers and kingdoms also. Whatever factual evidence is there for them. For those where no hard evidence is available, they are put on the burner till hard evidence comes by.

If Pashtuns are Pakthas and Persus are not Persians, then give us the alternate etymology according to your view.
 
Mar 2019
1,535
KL
#79
so if aryans were not present in india and suddenly they appeared and old people vanished into thin air, demographics changed, everything changed, this logic and then your logic, we have been present since millennia, and then quoting vedas to prove the existence of people who have not been registered with such a name until few hundred years ago and then saying that a group of people who have been recently identified were infact present all along for thousands of years. your own logic seem very contradictory.

we dont have pashto language attested in any form until few hundred years ago and now you are claiming that pashtuns antiquity extends for thousands of years, how exactly is this even possible?

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Aatreya

Ad Honorem
Dec 2014
3,543
USA
#80
so if aryans were not present in india and suddenly they appeared and old people vanished into thin air, demographics changed, everything changed, this logic and then your logic, we have been present since millennia, and then quoting vedas to prove the existence of people who have not been registered with such a name until few hundred years ago and then saying that a group of people who have been recently identified were infact present all along for thousands of years. your own logic seem very contradictory.

we dont have pashto language attested in any form until few hundred years ago and now you are claiming that pashtuns antiquity extends for thousands of years, how exactly is this even possible?

regards
Never mind, such questions are not addressed by migration theorists. There is no trace of those phantom Aryans in Central Asia whatsoever. Yet the migration theorists keep repeating the same stuff - over and over. On the other hand, it should be logical that a land that has harbored the Aryan religion and thought for millennia should be the one where the thought originated. But the self proclaimed experts (who cannot even parse the Vedic language properly but claim they are experts in Vedas) harbor a fantasy of having originated from Europeans.