Was Hercules real?

Tulius

Ad Honorem
May 2016
4,705
Portugal
Such as what? Is there any discovery that would confirm his existence 100%?
In the study of the past there is rarely 100% sure, especially in Ancient history. Anyway a finding of new sources, such as the Death Sea scrolls, or new ceramic with Linear B talking about him… it would have to be such a stunning finding that I can’t even imagine!!! And I am in a pretty speculative mood now!
 
Jan 2015
2,811
MD, USA
Such as what? Is there any discovery that would confirm his existence 100%?
You'd basically have to find his perfectly preserved foot locker, with his name on it. Inside would be the Nemean lion skin, impenetrable by any blade, a honking big club, and shreds of a poison-soaked cloak with "Nessus Shirt Company" on the label. And a couple empty wine skins, of course.

All of that would understandably be dismissed by most people as fakes. So No, even that would never prove his existence 100%. Even bringing him back in a time machine wouldn't do it.

Sorry, son! Just ain't that kind of world.

Matthew
 

Tulius

Ad Honorem
May 2016
4,705
Portugal
You'd basically have to find his perfectly preserved foot locker, with his name on it. Inside would be the Nemean lion skin, impenetrable by any blade, a honking big club, and shreds of a poison-soaked cloak with "Nessus Shirt Company" on the label. And a couple empty wine skins, of course.
Yep, defiantly your example of perfect source for this case is much better than mine. :D
 
Jun 2017
3
United States
[Diodorus] "The gods, they say, had been originally mortal men, but gained their immortality on account of wisdom and public benefits to mankind, some of them having also become kings: and some have the same names, when interpreted, with the heavenly deities, while others have received a name of their own, as Helios, and Kronos, and Rhea, and Zeus"

A God was nothing more than a deified ancestor. Deified ancestors are something tangible and something real. Their bones were buried in their 
temples, Dionysus for example was buried under the temple at Delphi, and 
people came there to worship them. Sound familiar. These practices were 
carried on with the worship of Saints. Saints are exactly the same thing as 
Daemons.

One step higher and you have a Hero, and one step higher still you 
have a Demi-God and then a God. Achilles was a Hero, Alexander, Julius 
Caesar and Augustus were Gods. Jesus Christ was a defied ancestor and a 
Demi-God like Herakles. Things got more complicated when Gods were 
syncretised with other Gods. The God of the Jews is in fact more than 7 
different Gods merged into one in the Greek translation of the Hebrew bible. 
The Hebrew version of the bible names all these Gods separately.

The idea of a God that is not a defied ancestor only exists in Plato 
(Timaeus), a God which is devoid of any mythology or nationalism. This 
concept of God is what people who do not understand the origin of religion 
or even what religion actually is such as Richard Dawkins and most ordained 
clergy misconstrue as the God of the Abrahamic religions, even though it is 
totally incompatible with them.

The God of Judaism is 7 different God Kings 
of the Phoenicians merged into one. The God of Christianity is Jesus Christ 
a defied man. The God of Islam is 
some defied Arab king, probably Orotalt (Dionysus) or El the father of 
Jehovah but since Mohammed destroyed the records of the Arabs original 
religion its difficult to figure out.

All genuine God cults were based on ancestor wroship. Stars and planets were regarded as inanimate astronomical bodies. The Metaphysical Gods of the philosophers were not part of any religion since a religion was defined as a tradition of ancestor worship which is why Socrates was sentenced to death for inventing new Gods even though he claimed Anaxogoras had done the same.
I think there's more evidence that Jesus was more than a man. At least compared to the other examples.
 
Jul 2014
623
Messinia
You'd basically have to find his perfectly preserved foot locker, with his name on it. Inside would be the Nemean lion skin, impenetrable by any blade, a honking big club, and shreds of a poison-soaked cloak with "Nessus Shirt Company" on the label. And a couple empty wine skins, of course.

All of that would understandably be dismissed by most people as fakes. So No, even that would never prove his existence 100%. Even bringing him back in a time machine wouldn't do it.

Sorry, son! Just ain't that kind of world.

Matthew
A man can dream, right?