Were there any people in countries that fought against Napoleon that openly admired him, and/or defended his actions?

martin76

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Dec 2014
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#31
Religious tolerance, secularization, equality before the law, abolition of guilds, freedom of trade, equality of taxation,
I guess it is because we are in Christmas days.. and Champagne just is producing its bacchic effects ...
Religious tolerance? beautiful word to mean looting, fires, violations and destruction of cultural heritage.

Secularization? now does it say so? Yes... as the Nazis secularizated Poland....

About guilds, trade and taxation.. the Ancient Régime was evolving ... it was just a matter of decades maybe less.
 

Willempie

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Jul 2015
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#32
False. Ideas like Religious tolerance, secularization, equality before the law, abolition of guilds, freedom of trade, equality of taxation, due process of law were implemented in a lasting fashion outside of France and England. Not all, not everywhere, not without reaction. But many changes were lasting.
Where?
Even my country, which used to be a beacon of those things lagged really behind.
Napoleon fits this category as well, Napoleon was controled reactionary reform. He rolled back a fair bit of the revolutionary ideas. He was an absolutiests as any bourbon and decidedly interventionist in the ecnomy,removed local democracy and autonomy, he claimed devine right, he introtoduced a new nobility with tax exempt heriditory estates. Religious toleration, law reform, centralization, more effecient and interferring ogiovernment was adopted by many reactionary regimes for thier own purposes.
Thing is that his reforms were mostly successful and stayed. Even the "we will turn the clock back" Vienna congress couldn't reverse it.
Austria abolished the legal basis of serfdom but failed to remove the financial aspects in a lasting fashion, which often meant the serfs were mot much better of as peasants with obligations, much like the Russian emancipation later, and generally the abolition of serfdom under the French Empire the few places happened, was on this basis the feudal dues were just moved over to financial obligations which did little to actually change much in real terms.
Not even that, just ask some Hungarians.
So what? France only made soem changes due to the revolution. Change needs circumstances, In France In Prussia, anywhere. Large established vested interests and privileged are powerful and difficult to over throw. Reformers are mostly a small mniority and normally only prosper when the circumstances favour radical change. In this case massive defeat of the Prussian state, loss of half the nation, and the oppressive Napoleonic occupation.After 1815 the pressure off, Aristocratic reaction followed. It's pattern followed many times.
France did not make "some changes". You went from being a serf or "tenant" to being a citizen.
Western prioestant countries ere ones that teh socio-ecnomic factors were quite different, the Nobles had become less of the factor than money/trade/merchants , Eatsenr europe had radicall;y different social structures, basically a very small to non-existent middle class resulting in different social pressures, and less forces pushing for reform. The Liberalization of ecnomcy and much charge was pushed by welathy non nobles or =nobles who wealth was no longer landed in basis. Powerful vested interests had moved over to a more sucessful pardigm of welath anad power than restricted economy and feudal land tenure.The Sucess of enlightenment Ideas depends teh social context they were in.
That is explaining why they weren't implemented, which is my point.
His legal changes remianed until the dissolution of the Empire. History is in the details. The persistence of "good stories" and anecdotes, cliches, is often poor history. His sucess rate was maybe 1/2 of what he attempted.
Nope, a boatload of his (or from the revolution itself) changes remained. Ie the Dutch legal system was changed forever. Not to mention that the first thing that happened in 1848 was to find a Bonaparte and offer him the job as prez.
 
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