What are the estimates of the causaulties of the early muslim conquests ?

Nov 2010
7,170
Cornwall
#2
How can anyone possibly know?

Though there are exceptions, people don't normally kill civilians unless there is some bad grudge. Lots of folk changed sides and 'pacted'. Sometimes it's easier that way
 

pugsville

Ad Honorem
Oct 2010
7,975
#3
very little. I don't recall them being particularity bloody. Most of the conquest was over areas in which the population was not very active in warfare, long used to foreign rule and not involved in the fighting. certainly no massacres when Jerusalem was taken. Much less violence than when the Crusaders came through.
 
Aug 2018
19
Canada
#4
Amazing.
No one thought of just Googling the thread title!
Here are the Raw but mixed results of doing so, including those that are probably extreme/anti-Islam, not endorsed by me.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Wha...=chrome..69i57j69i60&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Here's How Islam's Historical 270 MILLION Death Toll Breaks Down
https://madworldnews.com › Religion
Jan 10, 2015 - The mainstream media and apologists for Islam never fail to shift focus ... the Quran and Hadith, and first began with the Prophet Muhammad. ... Crusades against the Muslim conquests, the final death toll doesn't even register on the scale. The highest death estimate of the Crusades peaks at a miniscule 3 ...

Tears of Jihad - Political Islam
https://www.politicalislam.com/tears-of-jihad/
Mar 3, 2008 - The country of India today is only half the size of ancient India, due to jihad. ... This gives a rough estimate of 270 million killed by jihad. ..... the last 1400 years of Islamic history Muslim conquests have resulted in 270 MILLION ...

1,400 Years of Islamic Aggression: An Analysis - CBN.com
http://historum.com/middle-eastern-.../.../understandingislam/IslamHistory0212.aspx
The opening heading states, "During the Crusades, East and West first met. ... The lust for Muslim imperialist conquest stretched from southern France to the ... as many Christians as the Christians killed Muslims in all of the Crusades combined. .... Muslim Iran with a resulting (some estimates say) death of 2 million people.

Is it true that global Islamic invasion caused 270 million deaths ...
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-global-Islamic-invasion-caused-270-million-dea...
Mar 29, 2016 - This myth was first invented by Pamela Geller, a Zionist Jew. ... These figures are a rough estimate of the death of non-Muslims by the political act of jihad. .... million between 1000 (conquest of Afghanistan) and 1525 (end of Delhi Sultanate).
Throughout history, how many people have been killed in the ... Jan 26, 2018
How many Hindus were killed by Muslims during Islamic invasion ... Oct 13, 2016
I keep reading that Islamic conquests have resulted in the killing ... Mar 24, 2016
Which religion is responsible for the greatest number of deaths of ... Jul 19, 2015
More results from www.quora.com

The myth of the murderous Muslim | | Al Jazeera
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/01/2013127211920494.html
Jan 3, 2013 - Namely, that "Muslims" killed somewhere between two or three hundred million. ... When the first Mughal emperor Babur conquered north India - from another Muslim dynasty, I might add - his army is estimated to number ...

Killings for Islam - Mark Humphrys
markhumphrys.com/islam.killings.html
Islamic Spain; Islamic conquest of Turkey; The Ottoman Empire; Conversion of places of ... Even after the initial expansion slowed, the killings did not end. .... India, K.S. Lal, 1973, estimates 80 million Hindus killed by jihad in 1000 to 1525.

Mughal India ~ The Biggest Holocaust in World History | SikhNet
https://www.sikhnet.com/news/islamic-india-biggest-holocaust-world-history
Mar 1, 2016 - Nadir Shah made a mountain of the skulls of the Hindus he killed in Delhi alone. ... mass rapes of women and the destruction of thousands of ancient Hindu ... “There is no official estimate of the total death toll of Hindus at the hands of Islam. ... “The Muslim conquests, down to the 16th century, were for the ...

Fred Donner. The Early Islamic Conquests - Internet History ...
https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/med/donner.asp
The ruling elite continued to dominate the conquered tribesmen of Arabia, and ... The importance of a sincere belief in the religious precepts of early Islam, then, ..... as well can hardly be estimated, but it would be unrealistic, indeed foolhardy, ...
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Again, many of these websites may have an axe to grind, but at least you get some rough numbers.
 
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Aug 2018
19
Canada
#6
And yet you used them anyway. How about a bit of responsible sourcing?

The initial conquests was teh question which is a fairly restricted period rand of that is not that period,
I thought I did a quite reasonable thing posting everything from "political Islam", to "al Jazeera", to linking several discussions of how another forum handled the topic/high estimate.

My post was far more informative than yours, in that we have sampling of what would be a wide estimate, at least.

Why can't YOU, after two posts, present anything even close to the OP's request, or post anything more than your 'feeling' of the issue?

EDIT
NO ANSWER BELOW (and still no estimate)
Just the usual/gratuitous Last-word du jour.
 
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pugsville

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Oct 2010
7,975
#7
I thought I did a quite reasonable think posting everything from "political Islam", to "al Jazeera", to several discussions of how another forum handled the topic/high estimate.

My post was far more informative than yours, in that we have sampling of what would be a wide estimate, at least.

Why can't YOU, after two posts, present nothing even close to the OP's request, or post anything more than your 'feeling of the issue'?
What Mughal India got to do with the initial Islamic conquests?
 

Tsar

Ad Honorem
Apr 2015
2,010
Serbia
#9
I thought I did a quite reasonable thing posting everything from "political Islam", to "al Jazeera", to linking several discussions of how another forum handled the topic/high estimate.

My post was far more informative than yours, in that we have sampling of what would be a wide estimate, at least.

Why can't YOU, after two posts, present anything even close to the OP's request, or post anything more than your 'feeling' of the issue?

EDIT
NO ANSWER BELOW (and still no estimate)
Just the usual/gratuitous Last-word du jour.
Even if we disregard the fact that the Mughals suddenly became early Islamic invaders, giving estimates based on hot air is not responsible sourcing. It's better not to give any number, than an estimation based on 10+ unknown variables. Not to mention how scientific Political Islam and Al Jazeera are.
 
Sep 2012
8,739
India
#10
Let the O.P. define what is meant by ' early ' Muslim conquests. Prophet Mohammed spread Islam in Arabia in the 8th century. That is not really ' early'. Mohammed Bin Qasim, the first Muslim aggressor of India, followed soon thereafter. If 'early ' means medieval ages, then Nadirshah's attack on Delhi qualifies as a bloody massacre of Hindus. The aggressor erected towers of Human skulls when he left Delhi finally.
 
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