What are your thoughts on this proposal for Israeli-Palestinian peace?

sparky

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Jan 2017
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#2
since this would fit in a political situation where there is no good faith , it's a dead on arrival proposal
the status of the Palestinian areas is not defined

Prez Trump son in law will ( possibly soon ) unveil a peace plan proposal ,
it seems to include some land for money trade .
the prospects of success are not high
 
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Futurist

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May 2014
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SoCal
#3
Well, if the federation plan would be unacceptable to one or both sides, then Israel can simply try unilaterally implementing some version of the Mofaz Plan:



Of course, Israel might want to keep a part of Hebron for itself.
 

sparky

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Jan 2017
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Sydney
#4
I'm afraid , right wing Israelis movements are more greedy than that
in fact the lack of any "final" legal arrangement allow some continuous change in favor of more or expanded settlements
 
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Futurist

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May 2014
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#5
With the exception of the Jewish part of Hebron, it really doesn't make sense for Israel to go beyond the borders of the Mofaz Plan. After all, the remaining territory is heavily populated by Palestinian Arabs--and Israel certainly doesn't want to rule over them!
 

pugsville

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Oct 2010
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Unworkable, a sugar coasted version of apratheid .The Answer to the question is how can we have "democracy" in all of the lands but still gerrymander all the political power into Jewish hands.

Given the structure why would any of the results it proclaims happen? The Jewish population inst going to vote for massive aid and stuff for Palestinians any time soon.

the Agurments this plan is based on are just totally unrealistic. Constcuct a plitical system that gives control to a group and they do not not reap the rewards of that and start being all altrustic and decide to help the less fortunate.

What does it offer Palestinians?
 

Futurist

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May 2014
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SoCal
#8
Unworkable, a sugar coasted version of apratheid .The Answer to the question is how can we have "democracy" in all of the lands but still gerrymander all the political power into Jewish hands.

Given the structure why would any of the results it proclaims happen? The Jewish population inst going to vote for massive aid and stuff for Palestinians any time soon.

the Agurments this plan is based on are just totally unrealistic. Constcuct a plitical system that gives control to a group and they do not not reap the rewards of that and start being all altrustic and decide to help the less fortunate.

What does it offer Palestinians?
It would give the Palestinians self-rule in their own cantons, no?

Yeah, looking at the first map, the word "Bantustan" springs to mind.
Can't one say something similar about the Arab state in the 1947 UN Palestine Partition Plan, though? :



Both the Jewish state and the Arab state on this map lack territorial contiguity.