What could the Mexican soldiers who "disarmed" American Soldiers on U.S. soil be charged with?

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Oct 2009
3,606
San Diego
#91
You need too look up the definition of soldier. It's obvious you were never one. Those would be sailors responsible for those ships, not soldiers. I was a soldier for 28 years & that remark is extremely insulting.
I don't care if you're insulted. Your sensitive feelings regarding the difference between a soldier and a sailor are not my responsibility to coddle.

Sailors are members of the armed forces, supposedly trained to be proficient at the equipment they are charged with operating. No different than soldiers.
( oh- and Marines- technically- are a Navy department ) IF a soldier is supposed to know where he is because he can operate a GPS- the Sailors navigating a warship are supposed to be even more certain of Their position.

THAT was the referent.
 
Oct 2009
3,606
San Diego
#92
Consider that immigration enforcement is swamped and that this is working as intended before Trump, it cannot be said that it is "hyperbolized" by racists. Wake up. Even the liberal outlets grudgingly let it slip in recent weeks - they can only fight reality so far. Why else do we even have sanctuary cities, processing centers, uncountable numbers of illegals in the US with Chamber of Commerce and Democrats excited over new serfs and voters?

Not to mention panic over sanctuary cities actually having to serve as sanctuaries. Think about how these Mexican troops are doing their job - did you and people you know hysterify over our own troops doing the same?
It is NOT a problem. the truth is MOST illegal aliens come to the US on airplanes- or by legally driving across the border- not across the desert.

Secondly- the GOP USES an invented immigration crisis to scare people who ARE racists- to get then to vote conservative - despite the fact that the GOP has never once done a single thing to stem the tide of illegal immigration. Walls don't work- planes can fly over them, and here in San Diego- we find a new tunnel Under them every month. ITs EASY for the GOP to waste your tax dollars on walls they know perfectly well will not prevent even one alien from crossing,- xenophobes can be mollified by the Optics of a big wall...and yet the Businesses that utterly rely in illegal aliens for labor nod and wink, cause they know the wall won't create a shortage of willing illegal labor.

If the GOP was serious about illegal immigration, they would prosecute those who hire them. They don't-

thirdly, the Reason the GOP never really does anything Effective to stop immigration is because THEY get financial reports that show perfectly well that aliens, illegal or not, are an absolute benefit to the economy. Here in California we are DROWNING in illegals... and we have the strongest economy in the US and a bigger economy that all but 5 entire nations.

Know why? Because they come here with NOTHING. they have to BUY everything they need to live a life here- Cars, trucks, Food, clothing, furnishings, pots and pans, electronics- they pay rent, or even buy homes.

Folks who claim they drain tax resources are lying or ignorant. One third of california's state revenue is from sales taxes- illegals pay sales tax on everything they buy- and they have to buy everything they need to live here. Another third is from property tax- every illegal paying RENT is paying the property tax for whatever landlord owns the property they are renting.
And the last third- income tax? If the GOP would stop scaring the bejeezus out of folks over 'illegals' and simply pass a law granting them guest worker status, then their income could be tracked and taxed, just like everyone else.




So- sorry- but it is a fact- there is no such thing as an illegal immigration crisis. its NOT a 'problem'- in fact its actually the sole cause of economic growth in the US.
As big a deal as conservatives make over the issue to try and get people to vote out of fear, the GOP has never done anything even remotely effective to slow illegal immigration because they KNOW its good for the economy- good for business- and that their only real concern is making people BELIEVE its a crisis only they can solve- even though every time they have total power they never actually do a thing.

If you believe illegal immigration is a 'problem' in this country- then congratulations... you have been played for a rube.

The real problem in this country is that the ONE sector of society most able to AFFORD taxation, is not paying any taxes at all. That the middle class is shrinking... and that Americans are too busy whining about how much money is taken OUT of their check by government Rather than demanding that their employers put a LOT MORE money INTO their check to start with.

But no- its that brown people are willing to come here and work hard... that's the problem...

sure it is.
 
Aug 2011
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The Castle Anthrax
#93
Many thanks for the unsolicited and verbose diatribe about immigration.

Now back to what was previously established as the pressing problem; southern border security. There is no opportunity for cooperation between the US and Mexico given the colossal corruption in Mexico. According to the trial of Joaquin Guzman, he paid something of a $100 million dollar bribe to Enrique Pena Nieto when he was president elect. Can there be any reasonable doubt that the drug cartels run Mexico? Can there be any reasonable doubt that the drug cartels desire political influence within the US? I really don't see how this is a left or right issue given both have had control of the White House, Senate, and House over the past 30+ years and have effectively done nothing about the Southern Border, to say nothing about the witnessed corruption of politicians from both sides. I have no doubts that there are potentially willing allies to the cartels on both sides. After all there have been customers of the cartels from both sides.

12 Politicians Busted for Drug Possession
 
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Singapore
#94
It is NOT a problem. the truth is MOST illegal aliens come to the US on airplanes- or by legally driving across the border- not across the desert.
But no- its that brown people are willing to come here and work hard... that's the problem...

sure it is.
Brown people only? You left out the other colours, the black and yellow.
 
Oct 2009
3,606
San Diego
#96
Many thanks for the unsolicited and verbose diatribe about immigration.

Now back to what was previously established as the pressing problem; southern border security. There is no opportunity for cooperation between the US and Mexico given the colossal corruption in Mexico. According to the trial of Joaquin Guzman, he paid something of a $100 million dollar bribe to Enrique Pena Nieto when he was president elect. Can there be any reasonable doubt that the drug cartels run Mexico? Can there be any reasonable doubt that the drug cartels desire political influence within the US? I really don't see how this is a left or right issue given both have had control of the White House, Senate, and House over the past 30+ years and have effectively done nothing about the Southern Border, to say nothing about the witnessed corruption of politicians from both sides. I have no doubts that there are potentially willing allies to the cartels on both sides. After all there have been customers of the cartels from both sides.

12 Politicians Busted for Drug Possession
Saying its a problem is not an argument- its not evidence of a problem.
And being a shill for a make believe crisis you actually fell for is still being a shill.
 
Jul 2016
9,680
USA
#97
Secondly- the GOP USES an invented immigration crisis to scare people who ARE racists-
LOL, so everyone who is against 30 million illegal aliens living in the USA are racists because Sculptingman says so. You and your buddies keep watering down that word and its going to mean nothing shortly.

If the GOP was serious about illegal immigration, they would prosecute those who hire them. They don't-
They most certainly do, constantly.

thirdly, the Reason the GOP never really does anything Effective to stop immigration is because THEY get financial reports that show perfectly well that aliens, illegal or not, are an absolute benefit to the economy. Here in California we are DROWNING in illegals... and we have the strongest economy in the US and a bigger economy that all but 5 entire nations.
California's economy is strong because of the tech sector and agriculture, only one of those employs illegals. Its also collapsing.

GOP can't do anything about illegals because terrible laws and worse, outright collusion with the Left, creating sanctuary cities and even states (like your own). Which is why they're all going to be apprehended outside of those places and then transported inside and dumped.

Have fun dealing with them!
 
Oct 2009
3,606
San Diego
That's a rather grand personal attack.
Thanks?

If the shoe fits... If one of these racist fearmongers wants to make any actual reasoned argument explaining how border security is a Real crisis... then I would be happy to rebut.


You, for example, always give me a decent argument. I respect a good argument.
But I got no respect for trembling scaredy cats who parrot the talking points of a Billionaire who seeks to divert attention from the fact that the new aristocracy of kleptocrats are rigging the world economy to strip all wealth and political power from the working classes.
 
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