- Jun 2012
Kind of something like this, perhaps.
Can you elaborate? I didn’t understood you. Isabel (Elizabeth) was the Christian name of Zaida, she was from the Taifa of Seville: Zaida of Seville - WikipediaWho could have been an ancestor of Queen Elizabeth, thereby actually making her a descendant of the Prophet, if some scholars' conjecture would have it, IIRC.
The Queen of the UK. The claim that Queen Elizabeth II is one of Mohammed’s descendants belongs to Harold Brooks-Baker, who wrote to the British PM Margaret Thatcher at the time 'It is little known by the British people that the blood of Mohammed flows in the veins of the Queen'. Connection to Mohammed is via Zaida of Seville.
Harem: The World Behind the Veil by Alev Croutier has some information about what happened to the women of the Harem when Ottoman Empire was dissolved. It has some information on lesser harems too, if I recall correctly.I know, it's a very strange question but I m curious.
In Spain, Greece, Portugal, Sicily, balkan where muslims had a once a large military presence, the high dignitaries (sultan, generals, vizir, etc...) generally brought with them their harem. And I've read that after the defeat of the turks in Hungary during the war of 1682-1699, christian forces captured the sultan's harem. I discovered the same thing happened during the reconquista. And I wanted to know what happened to these women? Are there books which talk or make mention of this? Because I imagine that there were not only European women (captured during muslim raid in European coast) but also more exotic women (African, middle eastern,...)
Oh! Thanks. The things that people write to sell books.The Queen of the UK. The claim that Queen Elizabeth II is one of Mohammed’s descendants belongs to Harold Brooks-Baker, who wrote to the British PM Margaret Thatcher at the time 'It is little known by the British people that the blood of Mohammed flows in the veins of the Queen'. Connection to Mohammed is via Zaida of Seville.
Harold Brooks-Baker - Wikipedia
A Daily Mail article about the matter and the ancestry in full:Oh! Thanks. The things that people write to sell books.
We should note that we even don’t know the true relation of Zaida with the Al-Mu'tamid, and even less the relation of Al-Mu'tamid with the Mahomet. But ok. It is a claim.
Indeed so. In the Caliphate of Cordoba it tended to be the Caliph's collection of wives. Including Christian ones not by capture but by the usual political negotiations to seal treaties.Should also be noted that the harem were not all sex Slaves. The harem was the collection of women belonging to the head... it included wives, daughters, paid servents, young sons, aunts, mother, slaves and concubines aswell as eunuchs...
For me the British Queen can even be descendent of Adam and Eve, the historical problem is that we aren’t really sure of the relation of Al-Mu'tamid and Zaida (we can’t assure that she was her daughter, it is also possible that she was her daughter-in-law) and we know that Sancha Alfonsez was the daughter of Isabel, but we don’t know if that Isabel is the same as Zaida. It is probable or possible that Alfonso had two wives (or a wife and a mistress) named Isabel. And I am only commenting fragilities on two of those links. Anyway the article comments that “Historians believe…” and than doesn’t quote any.Sancha Alfonsez, Infanta of Castile - daughter of
Zaida (aka Isabella) - daughter of
Al-Mu'tamid ibn Abbad, King of Seville - son of
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