What has happened to the tomb/monument of Hannibal Barca in Libyssa? Why did it disappear after the eleventh century?

Jul 2014
677
Messinia
#1
It is said that the Roman emperor Septimius Severus, himself a descendent of Phoenician colonists in North Africa, adorned Hannibal’s tomb with fine marble and erected a monument. His monument was in Libyssa where he died.

From Livius.org:

The place where this happened, Libyssa, was venerated by later generations. Among the pilgrims were Romans; the monument erected by the emperor Septimius Severus (193-211) was still visible in the eleventh century.

What happened to the monument and tomb of Hannibal? Is is still possible to find Hannibal’s tomb now? Was he likely cremated, as per Hellenistic customs?

Thank you.
 
Jan 2015
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MD, USA
#3
Tombs and other old buildings are excellent sources of building material for successive generations. They may also occupy prime real estate that someone wants to build on. If all those nice tombs survived intact, there wouldn't be any space left for the living... Be happy we have historical accounts of Hannibal and other past heroes! Not all the great people from history have survived in that way.

Matthew
 
#4
It is said that the Roman emperor Septimius Severus, himself a descendent of Phoenician colonists in North Africa, adorned Hannibal’s tomb with fine marble and erected a monument. His monument was in Libyssa where he died.

From Livius.org:

The place where this happened, Libyssa, was venerated by later generations. Among the pilgrims were Romans; the monument erected by the emperor Septimius Severus (193-211) was still visible in the eleventh century.

What happened to the monument and tomb of Hannibal? Is is still possible to find Hannibal’s tomb now? Was he likely cremated, as per Hellenistic customs?

Thank you.
Unfortunately it probably became building material. But it certainly is interesting that Severus honoured the tomb. It probably says something about how African-born Romans, like Severus, constructed a relationship between themselves and a Punic past.
 
Jul 2014
677
Messinia
#5
Tombs and other old buildings are excellent sources of building material for successive generations. They may also occupy prime real estate that someone wants to build on. If all those nice tombs survived intact, there wouldn't be any space left for the living... Be happy we have historical accounts of Hannibal and other past heroes! Not all the great people from history have survived in that way.

Matthew
What other past heroes have we lost to the sands of time?
 
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Jan 2015
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MD, USA
#6
What other past heroes have we lost to the sands of time?
We don't know--they're *lost*.

One of the biggest mistakes a historian can make is to assume that we have all the pieces, know all the names, have been informed of every battle, etc. That simply is not the case. We're lucky with ancient Greece, because we do have some good sources, and what appears to be a decent overall framework. But for Western Europe of the same time? Just about nothing. Numerous rich cultures growing and clashing just as much as the Greeks ever did, and we don't even know what they called themselves (well, a few tribal names are known from Greek sources!). But even in the Hellenistic era there are gaps in our knowledge.

Matthew
 
Jul 2014
677
Messinia
#7
We don't know--they're *lost*.

One of the biggest mistakes a historian can make is to assume that we have all the pieces, know all the names, have been informed of every battle, etc. That simply is not the case. We're lucky with ancient Greece, because we do have some good sources, and what appears to be a decent overall framework. But for Western Europe of the same time? Just about nothing. Numerous rich cultures growing and clashing just as much as the Greeks ever did, and we don't even know what they called themselves (well, a few tribal names are known from Greek sources!). But even in the Hellenistic era there are gaps in our knowledge.

Matthew
Thanks as always Matthew.

So we should be lucky with the information we have from Ancient Greece then. I never really thought about it that way....
 

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