What if Germany Won the Battle of Britain?

redcoat

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They just had to take Iceland first in this timeline. Operating out of there, Germans could have cut off supplies to Britain, as well as prevent American landing in Britain without actually invading Britain.
Britain invaded Iceland in May 1940, and occupied the island until July 1941 when the USA took control of the islands defence.
Iceland in World War II - Wikipedia
 
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Technically a small flotilla of say one Deutschland/Hipper with two armed merchantmen could slip through the North Sea to drop a battalion at Reykjavik. But it would not only be utterly disastrous for the expeditionary force later (with British invasion and all) but would force the RN to rigorously patrol the North and Denmark Strait.

Curious afterthought, does this mean no Rhineubung and no heart attack in the last week of May, 1941?
 

M.S. Islam

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If, by some miracle of logistics, the Germans do manage to land a small invasion force on Iceland what’s to stop the UK immediately sending a much larger one to take it back?

The Germans can’t set up a large enough naval interdiction infrastructure before the RN arrives to spoil their fun.
Right, but German troops (which could be complemented by paratroopers) might just hold on by securing landing spots/harbours, creating safe haven for U boats.
 

M.S. Islam

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Technically a small flotilla of say one Deutschland/Hipper with two armed merchantmen could slip through the North Sea to drop a battalion at Reykjavik. But it would not only be utterly disastrous for the expeditionary force later (with British invasion and all) but would force the RN to rigorously patrol the North and Denmark Strait.
Convoys originating from Trondheim, Norway, taking a detour towards Jan Mayen and then approaching Iceland from north would keep them out of range of RAF.

These would be more plausible than the Arctic convoys to Russia.
 
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Davidius

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Right, but German troops (which could be complemented by paratroopers) might just hold on by securing landing spots/harbours, creating safe haven for U boats.
What’s the point if there is no chance of keeping those havens?

Also no paratroops. The JU58 has a range of about 1000 km, the nearest German airfield to Iceland is over twice that distance away.
I suppose you could convert a bomber to drop paras but it wouldn’t be worth the effort when the objective can’t be secured long term.
 

M.S. Islam

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What’s the point if there is no chance of keeping those havens?

Also no paratroops. The JU58 has a range of about 1000 km, the nearest German airfield to Iceland is over twice that distance away.
I suppose you could convert a bomber to drop paras but it wouldn’t be worth the effort when the objective can’t be secured long term.
Terrain of Iceland offers very limited landing spots. If German troops secured them, the British couldn't land a force large enough to overcome Germans. RAF and RN could carry on bombing, but what would they bomb?

U boats still could be provisioned at night when RAF wasn't around.
 

pugsville

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Right, but German troops (which could be complemented by paratroopers) might just hold on by securing landing spots/harbours, creating safe haven for U boats.
Without regular supplies of stores it would be useless as a base. You need fuel torpedoes, foos, spare parts etc. And German simply incapable of running regular supply ships to Iceland. Any force would be unable to be supplied.
 

pugsville

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Terrain of Iceland offers very limited landing spots. If German troops secured them, the British couldn't land a force large enough to overcome Germans. RAF and RN could carry on bombing, but what would they bomb?

U boats still could be provisioned at night when RAF wasn't around.
Just how many troops do you think Germany could get to iceland?
 

pugsville

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1000 or so of special forces?
Inadeupte to guard the shore line. And what heavy weaponss do they have to stop the Royal navy just sliding up to the shore and flatetneing all opposition. Without significant artillery they cannot possibly hold anything.