What if Germany Won the Battle of Britain?

M.S. Islam

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#81
Without regular supplies of stores it would be useless as a base. You need fuel torpedoes, foos, spare parts etc. And German simply incapable of running regular supply ships to Iceland. Any force would be unable to be supplied.
Convoys originating from Trondheim, Norway, taking a detour towards Jan Mayen and then approaching Iceland from north would keep them out of range of RAF.

Why couldn't it be done, when much larger and much dangerous Arctic convoys were possible later on?
 

pugsville

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#83
Convoys originating from Trondheim, Norway, taking a detour towards Jan Mayen and then approaching Iceland from north would keep them out of range of RAF.

Why couldn't it be done, when much larger and much dangerous Arctic convoys were possible later on?
because the Germans had a truly pitiful navy, whats going to stop the Royal Navy sinking these ships?
 

pugsville

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#84
Iceland in World War II - Wikipedia

See the landing points in the opening image. Securing them should prevent any large scale British deployment.
What you have there is the points the British decide to land NOT all possible landing points Landing coul dbe possibel at many other points..

Securing how? Without heavy wepaons the Birtish could just land dockside with overwhelming firepower support from ships.
 

M.S. Islam

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What you have there is the points the British decide to land NOT all possible landing points Landing coul dbe possibel at many other points..
That image was not properly captioned. This one is:
Invasion of Iceland - Wikipedia

Securing how? Without heavy wepaons the Birtish could just land dockside with overwhelming firepower support from ships.
With German presence on the island, a few U boats were bound to be lurking around. That sort of head on attempt to invade by RN were unlikely.
 

M.S. Islam

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#86
because the Germans had a truly pitiful navy, whats going to stop the Royal Navy sinking these ships?
The first convoy gets through undetected because of the surprise element. And one convoy should be enough for couple of months or more. They'll have aircover for the first leg anyway.

RN couldn't possibly be patrolling those otherwise insignificant waters of Barents sea indefinitely for such infrequent convoys; they're bound to be targeted by Luftwaffe. Bismarck would be another deterrent for RN.
 

Davidius

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Dec 2010
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#87
Terrain of Iceland offers very limited landing spots.
You’re just guessing at that, right?
Iceland has many gently sloping black sand beaches, hundreds of miles of them. The Germans could not defend even 5% of possible landing sites.

U boats still could be provisioned at night when RAF wasn't around.
But it takes more than one night for a supply vessel to leave port, find its resupply target, offload and return to safe harbour.
If the U boats are based in Iceland the supply boats will be on the high seas for a week at least, probably more, and therefore vulnerable to the RN and RAF.
 
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Edratman

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#88
U boats still could be provisioned at night when RAF wasn't around.
The Germans only had 27 U-boats in June, 1940. Your posts indicate that you believe that there were hundreds, if not thousands of U-boats available for every random concept that occurs to you.

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"Chief of U-boats Karl Dönitz estimated he needed 300 U-boats to defeat the Allied convoys and force Britain into submission. When war broke out on 3 Sept 1939 he had 26 ocean going U-boats. "




Graph showing the number of U-boats at sea at any given time during WWII. Red line includes boats in the Mediterranean (blue line).

Combat strength of the U-boat Force - Kriegsmarine U-boat Operations - uboat.net
 
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M.S. Islam

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But it takes more than one night for a supply vessel to leave port, find its resupply target, offload and return to safe harbour.
If the U boats are based in Iceland the supply boats will be on the high seas for a week at least, probably more, and therefore vulnerable to the RN and RAF.
U boats could be provisioned at harbors/docks, couldn't they be?
 
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