What if Hitler was deported back to Austria

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Hitler was not a German citizen at the time of Beer hall Putsch. As a resident alien who comitted a serious crime in Germany, what if he was deported back to Austria after his release from Landsberg Prison in 1924?
 
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Futurist

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Then he'd be unlikely to make trouble in Germany unless he was able to return there. Without him, the Nazi Party might either collapse and crumble or become led by someone else, such as the Strasser brothers.
 
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Then he'd be unlikely to make trouble in Germany unless he was able to return there. Without him, the Nazi Party might either collapse and crumble or become led by someone else, such as the Strasser brothers.
Hitler should have been deported in 1914. Being a draft dodger from the Austro-Hungarian army he was for all intents and purposes a fugitive. For some reason a clerical error in Germany allowed him to enlist in the Bavarian infantry reserves. Without that error he would not have been allowed to enlist being a non-citizen and he likely would have been deported back to Austria. If this had happened let's assume the Austrian army gets their hands on him. He is threatened either with jail or serve in the army. He chooses the latter, and gets killed somewhere in the alps fighting the Italians. Even if he doesn't get killed he would probably desert, just one of many Austrian deserters. Either way Hitler fades away, and no one would have ever heard of him.
 
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betgo

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He was a draft dodger from the Austrian Army before the war had started. I assume he was accepted into the German Army because they needed men and weren't asking many questions. Also, his father was a customs agent on the German border, and he spoke with what sounded like a Bavarian accept. Probably everyone in the German Army assumed he was Bavarian.

Anyway, if he went back to Austria, he would wind up in the Austrian Army in WWI. It didn't matter much either way.
 
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He was a draft dodger from the Austrian Army before the war had started. I assume he was accepted into the German Army because they needed men and weren't asking many questions. Also, his father was a customs agent on the German border, and he spoke with what sounded like a Bavarian accept. Probably everyone in the German Army assumed he was Bavarian.

Anyway, if he went back to Austria, he would wind up in the Austrian Army in WWI. It didn't matter much either way.
Would he be able to move to Germany after WWI and still acquire as large of a following had he been an Austrian WWI veteran rather than a German WWI veteran, though?
 

VHS

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Would he be able to move to Germany after WWI and still acquire as large of a following had he been an Austrian WWI veteran rather than a German WWI veteran, though?
Why do we think "Adolf Hitler mattered"?
A leader was effective because of the ability to inspire millions; did others in Germany have the same ability?
 
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Belgarion

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Jul 2011
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Even if Hitler had remained one of the unknown millions of disaffected soldiers post WWI and had nothing to do with the Nazi party, or was deported after the Beer Hall Putsch, I think the course of history would still have followed roughly the same pattern. The Nazis were only one of numerous small parties of disaffected nationalists in the 1920s, the social and economic conditions that led to their rise would still be the same without Hitler, and it is entirely possible some other leader would arise and come to power in a similar way.
 

tomar

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Hitler was not a German citizen at the time of Beer hall Putsch. As a resident alien who comitted a serious crime in Germany, what if he was deported back to Austria after his release from Landsberg Prison in 1924?
He acquired citizenship only in 1932 or thereabouts.... but the world then was generally more lenient with all kinds of residence/work permits and such
Theoretically there were plenty of opportunities to deport him (seeing as how he was a criminal who did jail time)....

This is not a case that you'll ever see referred to by "open borders' advocate... Adolf was after all a hard working guy who only sought a better life in Germany
 
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