What if Hitler was deported back to Austria

Oct 2015
1,171
California
#11
Even if Hitler had remained one of the unknown millions of disaffected soldiers post WWI and had nothing to do with the Nazi party, or was deported after the Beer Hall Putsch, I think the course of history would still have followed roughly the same pattern. The Nazis were only one of numerous small parties of disaffected nationalists in the 1920s, the social and economic conditions that led to their rise would still be the same without Hitler, and it is entirely possible some other leader would arise and come to power in a similar way.

Well maybe a Nazi party more along the lines of the Strasser model, more left leaning, saner, less genocidal and more pragmatic regime. I am of the opinion that no one else could have taken Germany and the Nazis on the same destructive path that Hitler did. His was a cult of personality that no one else could have filled.
 
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tomar

Ad Honoris
Jan 2011
13,765
#12
Were "deportations" of this kind carried out back then?
They certainly were in the US

And the nazis were certainly big on deportation....

It also happened in France, so its a safe bet that it did in other european countries as well

In April 1924, Stefan X., a young man born in Marseille to Italian immigrants, was imprisoned for failing to honor an expulsion order dating from 1920.3 Protesting his imprisonment, Stefan invoked the French nationality law of 1889, which held that children born in France to foreign parents became French nationals upon reaching adulthood, provided that they remained residents of France at that time and did not repudiate their right to French nationality before a justice of the peace. Stefan, who had just passed his twenty-first birthday, argued that he was a citizen and that, as such, he could not be expelled from the country.4 Local officials argued quite the contrary. They pointed out that the original expulsion order, which had been triggered by Stefan’s theft of charcoal briquettes from a barge, was issued when Stefan was still a minor and could not yet exercise his birthright citizenship. Since he was supposed to have left France three years earlier, they argued, he could hardly claim to have legal residency there upon turning age twenty-one. He had not, therefore, become a citizen. The expulsion, the Marseille police contended, remained legitimate and binding.

Most expulsions followed convictions for infractions of French civil or criminal law that did not engage national security in any direct way. Indeed, judging from the thousands of expulsion files I have examined in the Rhône14 and Bouches-du-Rhône archives, every arrest of a foreigner between 1918 and 1939 provoked an inquiry by police into the merits of ordering an expulsion. The judgment of local police officials thus intervened at two key points in the process leading to expulsion: first, local police made the arrests that triggered the inquiry into the merits of expelling any particular foreigner; second, police inspectors and commissioners were asked to write reports and to make recommendations regarding the desirability of expelling the foreigner in question following conviction or acquittal

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/9ac0/2ddff86c5cb0f0e4e36ed9fdd72f8d5ed1d9.pdf
 
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stevev

Ad Honorem
Apr 2017
3,454
Las Vegas, NV USA
#13
Were "deportations" of this kind carried out back then?
Hitler was well known by the time of his trial. It was even covered in the NY Times. He faced a possible death penalty. Even though he ended up serving only about a year in prison, much of the public had forgotten about him as prosperity had returned. The NSDAP remained a small party among many until the 1930 elections.

The only reason I can think of as to why he was not deported after leaving prison is the same as why he got a light sentence the first place. Influential people liked his nationalist politics.
 
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Futurist

Ad Honoris
May 2014
21,197
SoCal
#18
WI: Female Hitler

This is slightly off-topic, but it's a pretty funny scenario about how a female version of Hitler--aka Adele Hitler--would have turned out:

"Adele Hitler--her parents wanted her to marry a civil servant, but Adele was a rebellious girl, thought she was an artist, ran off to Vienna to join the avant-garde. There's a fine Expressionist portrait of her by Kokoschka. Later she went to Munich, where she was first female commissar of the Bavarian Soviet Republic in 1919. She was jailed for this, and in jail wrote her famous memoir *My Struggle.* When released she plunged into the Dadaist scene in Munich and produced such bizarre works of "art" as "Night of Broken Glass" (a sculpture of broken glass), "Final Solution" (featuring a dissolving corpse),and "Barbarossa" (I won't go into details, but "Barbarossa" means red beard, and the "beard" in question was pubic...) In 1923 she was finally confined to an insane asylum, where she committed suicide in 1945. Recently there have been attempts to revive her reputation, especially by the British feminist art historian Daphne Irving, who claims that Adele's insanity is a "myth.""
 

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