- Feb 2011
- Kitchener. Ont.
Yes, but the title Pharaoh is used throughout the Bible, beginning with Abram in Genesis.The problem is that the conventional chronology works a lot better with the Biblical information. For example, the Bible consistently uses the term ‘Pharaoh’, on its own, before the time of Solomon, but from the end of his reign onwards, it uses the term ‘Pharaoh’ in conjunction with the king’s personal name.
It may well be that it was only in the time of Sheshonq that the Hebrew records could recall the true name of a king, so have all those names who came before been forgotten?
Even when the story talks about the 'Land of Ramesses', the scribe uses 'Pharaoh' with reference to the king, but never once uses 'Pharaoh Ramesses' together in reference to the king.
I do see that you could reply with, "thats because the term Pharaoh was not attached to the kings name in the time of Ramesses". However, if the title Pharaoh is used in Genesis in the time of Abram then it must mean the story was created in the 1st millennium BC when the use of Pharaoh for a king was the convention.
Which, if true, must call the historical Biblical traditions which predate Sheshonq into serious question.
Agreed yes. The solutions offered in CoD (by James & Co.) are not viable in my opinion. In my view CoD has value in what the book hilites as chronological problems, but not the solutions it proposes.If the current dates were shifted by a couple of centuries, to make Ramses III the Shishak of the Bible, then this just doesn’t work.
In my view Ramesses III was the Tsirah (Hornet), mentioned in Deut & Joshua.
On the face of it that appears to be an interesting argument, but have you asked yourself how that could come about?Another detail is the fact that the prices for a slave throughout the Bible always perfectly match the time period in which the story is set. For example, in the account of Joseph, he is sold as a slave for 20 pieces of silver. That was precisely the average price of a slave in the 18th century, when the story is set. And this correspondence continues through to the 16th/15th century in the time of the Exodus, when the Mosaic Law stipulates the price as being 30 pieces of silver (and throughout the Bible the price continues to gradually increase, exactly as it really did over the centuries).
For instance, are we to believe an ongoing diary (or written record?) was kept over centuries which made note of these facts?
And, what about the dialogue used between the principal characters? Are we to believe that also?