What is Western society?

Nov 2014
287
ph
#1
What basically is Western society and culture? You can say that Western culture is associated with social libertinism like support for hookup culture promotion of LGBT culture, and support for abortion, but Mormons and Calvinists are not social liberals and they are considered part of Western culture, you can say that democratic liberalism is Western culture, but throne and altar conservative groups like Action Francaise are also considered part of Western culture, as is monarchism. And many right wing nationalist parties in Europe and decidedly illiberal and are also considered part of Western culture, as are Fascism and Communism, though both are anti-democratic.
 
Mar 2016
736
Australia
#2
Well, I can't speak for everyone, but I certainly would not say Western culture is directly about supporting things like LGBT culture and abortions. It's not necessarily about specifics, but a general attitude, which is tolerance and forward-thinking. The ideas of representative government started in Western Europe; the Enlightenment started in Western Europe; secularism and the separation of state and religion started in Western Europe. When the Soviet Union was subjugating its neighbours and forcing on them an oppressive regime, Western Europe and the United States defended things like the free movement of peoples, political representation, free speech, and free trade. It was the Cold War that pretty definitively sketched out what exactly was Western society and what wasn't, when things were never in sharper contrast at a societal level.
 
Nov 2014
287
ph
#3
Well, I can't speak for everyone, but I certainly would not say Western culture is directly about supporting things like LGBT culture and abortions. It's not necessarily about specifics, but a general attitude, which is tolerance and forward-thinking. The ideas of representative government started in Western Europe; the Enlightenment started in Western Europe; secularism and the separation of state and religion started in Western Europe. When the Soviet Union was subjugating its neighbours and forcing on them an oppressive regime, Western Europe and the United States defended things like the free movement of peoples, political representation, free speech, and free trade. It was the Cold War that pretty definitively sketched out what exactly was Western society and what wasn't, when things were never in sharper contrast at a societal level.
So by your standards, Mormons, Conservative Jews and Anglicans, and throne and altar monarchists who want to bring back the Ancien Regime should not be considered part of Western society and culture?
 
May 2017
124
Monterrey
#4
So by your standards, Mormons, Conservative Jews and Anglicans, and throne and altar monarchists who want to bring back the Ancien Regime should not be considered part of Western society and culture?
He is saying that dissenting opinions doesn't automatically lead to a death sentence, which is what Western society represents. At least these days. It's been a long road.
 
Mar 2016
736
Australia
#5
So by your standards, Mormons, Conservative Jews and Anglicans, and throne and altar monarchists who want to bring back the Ancien Regime should not be considered part of Western society and culture?
The very fact that these unusual minorities can exist and voice their own views is a defining feature of Western civilisation.
 
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