What rendered modern women's rights possible?

sparky

Ad Honorem
Jan 2017
4,719
Sydney
#21
the wage suppression theory is a bit more complex ,
women were employed in women specific occupation , usually badly paid ,
men were absolutely dominant in critical industrial activities

a touchy subject is that men had a strong union culture , while women had not
this led to weak collective bargaining
where the work was mixed between women and men , women tended to be paid less
this was based on the then prevalent belief that men needed to support a family as was their duty
while women work was seen as pre-mariage or for extra income
 

pugsville

Ad Honorem
Oct 2010
9,279
#22
the wage suppression theory is a bit more complex ,
women were employed in women specific occupation , usually badly paid ,
men were absolutely dominant in critical industrial activities

a touchy subject is that men had a strong union culture , while women had not
this led to weak collective bargaining
where the work was mixed between women and men , women tended to be paid less
this was based on the then prevalent belief that men needed to support a family as was their duty
while women work was seen as pre-mariage or for extra income
none of this explains "wage suppression theory".

I find little reason to buy the support a family as a reason for wage difference. Wages are lower because of power. They could. They did. As a rule if employers can page lower wages, they will. I find support a family reasonaing mistakes the propaganda excuses for an actual cause.

When does it say that women parcipation in the work force enabled emploers to reduce wages.?
 

sparky

Ad Honorem
Jan 2017
4,719
Sydney
#25
to pugsville

"I find little reason to buy the support a family as a reason for wage difference."
you are right but we are talking of when women entered the workforce
attitude and social mores were quite different

"Wages are lower because of power"
......Yep , always were always will be

"They could. They did. As a rule if employers can page lower wages, they will"
with very , very few exceptions that is a constant

" I find support a family reasoning mistakes the propaganda excuses for an actual cause. "
probably was , but this fitted with the then prevalent mindscape even for women themselves
the first stage of women emancipation was stopping to believe that
the first step in being free is wanting to be
 
Jan 2018
391
Sturgeon Lake Mn.
#26
Got any evdience of this?

Like wages going down as women entered the work force?
It has to be true, it's economic dogma; supply and demand and all that business.

Nah, I have no evidence but it's my observation that the growth of women in the workforce coincides with a slowdown in the growth of wages. Maybe there's a connection (among other things), maybe not. Anyway the thought occurs to me.
 

pugsville

Ad Honorem
Oct 2010
9,279
#27
It has to be true, it's economic dogma; supply and demand and all that business.
Dogma. Is often wrong.

In a hypothetical free market without other factors. there are always other factors
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Nah, I have no evidence but it's my observation that the growth of women in the workforce coincides with a slowdown in the growth of wages. Maybe there's a connection (among other things), maybe not. Anyway the thought occurs to me.
And what else was occurring over that time? correlation is not causation.
 
Mar 2013
1,002
Breakdancing on the Moon.
#29
Access to birth control is traditionally a huge factor in women's liberation.

General economic development and the rise of technology making other roles feasible.

I think those are the man two.
 

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