What theme/context in history would you weave a story out of?

Oct 2015
901
Norway
#11
I would like to see a good big-budget movie set in the Norse world, in other words a quality viking movie. It's Incredible that no such movie has been made yet. Can you imagine if there were no good westrerns or samurai movies?

I alos like the idea of a tragic love tale of a Byzantine soldier during the fall of Constantinople. That civilization has been mostly overlooked in movies.
 
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May 2013
1,720
The abode of the lord of the north
#12
I would like to see a good big-budget movie set in the Norse world, in other words a quality viking movie. It's Incredible that no such movie has been made yet. Can you imagine if there were no good westrerns or samurai movies?

I alos like the idea of a tragic love tale of a Byzantine soldier during the fall of Constantinople. That civilization has been mostly overlooked in movies.
Great! Can you think of a particular thread set in the norse world?
 
Aug 2012
1,523
#13
The American Civil War is just full of incredible stories which, by themselves, could make a decent movie.
But how about a tense thriller based on the real-life plot to launch a biological attack on the Union and kill Lincoln? Here's what I wrote about it in a previous thread:
A Kentucky doctor, Luke Blackburn, was well respected for his research into Yellow Fever. When the war broke out, the doctor wanted to use his medical expertise to aid the Confederate cause, relocating to Canada where he could better plan. He traveled to Bermuda, where there had been an outbreak of Yellow Fever, and under the guise of attending to the sick, gathered together numerous blankets and bedsheets stained with the vomit of the afflicted.
Blackburn's aim was to create a pandemic in the North, which had less experience with the disease and so may be more susceptible to its spread. With the promise of a big cash payout, he enlisted an accomplice to convey the spoiled garments to the North, even to Washington DC, hoping to kill President Lincoln.
Unwisely, Blackburn consistently withheld the promised money, which led to his henchman running off to the authorities and revealing the entire plot in exchange for immunity. Interestingly, he also revealed that the plan had been funded by Confederate spymaster Jacob Thompson, and that knowledge of the scheme extended to Confederate President Jefferson Davis.
Now, let's say this was a movie. You'd have to change the disease, as what Blackburn didn't know was that Yellow Fever could only be spread via mosquito. Also, you'd probably need to include a good protagonist, and so could use any number of Union spies as inspiration for the hero. But if you took a few little liberties, I could see it being a pretty engaging crime story, following the villains as they form their plan, and the heroes as they try to keep up.
 
Oct 2016
1,052
Merryland
#14
a biography of Vauban
peasant soldier who became a Marshall under Louis XIV. arguably greatest military engineer ever.

heard a story about a US Army Colonel during the Battle of Bastogne. lots of stragglers from overrun local units streaming into the city; he organized them and gave them assignments and helped win the battle. great example of an ad-hoc operation.

would be interesting to do a work on a Japanese unit in WWII what got 'bypassed' by the US forces, thus not getting attacked but no longer being supported. imagine them trying to keep their guard up while running out of supplies. they would probably engage in gardening and fishing. how would they deal with the natives? might be based on the units in Rabaul.
 
May 2013
1,720
The abode of the lord of the north
#15
This historical science fiction is something I thought about today:

An american archaeologist is obsessed with finding Alexander's lost tomb. She realizes her short term journeys to Egypt and Mediterranean are not going to be enough for her to unravel it. She wishes to relocate to Egypt. However, her husband, a doctor, disagrees as he felt their life was more secure in the US. Argument goes on for a few days. He fears a dead king is going to pull their marriage apart. Finally, one day, she makes it clear that she is moving.

Following weeks were unsurprisingly unpleasant for the husband and he decides to go and visit his wife before they separate. He lands in egypt. Though unable to reach his wife through phone, he locates her finally and finds out she has been excavating an ancient cave. He goes there and to meets her, who is utterly bewildered. He learns that they had stumbled on an extremely well preserved body drowned in secretive herbal potions. They're unable to comprehend why it hasn't degraded. They move it into a lab, and shortly afterwards, the husband finds out the homeostasis of the body has somehow been kept intact through the potion it was dipped in. They move the body into US, where during the further analysis, the husband shockingly learn that he could make the dead man's heart beat again. He lets the news out that the 2300 year old man is still breathing, and is just brain dead. However, he soon finds out that there are traces of brain activities that doesn't correspond to the brain-death state.

In the meantime, heated discussion starts to develop in the media and at the government level regarding the moral complicity of waking a man who has been dead for years. Government finally gives in to the demand that he shouldn't be left to live in forced ventilation. Meanwhile government of Egypt steps in and demands the man returned to Egypt as he was originally buried there. A truce is achieved and Egyptian scientists are sanctioned to study the man in US itself, after which he was to be killed by removing the ventilation. Learning this, our couple rushes to save the dead guy from being killed again.

The scientists steps in. As they examine his body, they're shocked to the core when they learn his brain activities are now nearly in complete restoration. As they stand numb, the dead guy wakes up. The couple arrive, and are shell-shocked seeing that all the scientists and security personnel of the hospital are massacred and the dead-guy is missing. They goes in search for him, and finds him unconscious at a nearby yard. They take him into the medical facility of the husband and ties him up there.

By the time he wakes up, the couple had summoned an ancient linguist who converses with the dead guy and learns that he was a Greek soldier, who lived shortly afterwards the alexander's global conquest. Following the Hellenization of Egypt, whilst which, an estranged tribe asked Ptolemy I Soter a favor; to send a good Greek soldier to their aid. Our guy is the one sent, and he soon learns that they want him to be their "Gatekeeper". They believed in apocalyptic prophecies and revered a god whom they called 'Gatekeeper'. It was their belief that their god would elevate a Greek as 'Gatekeeper' and make him protect them. Before the elevation ceremony, they told he must travel to the deep unknown worlds and learn several secretive techniques to fight evil. As they directed, he boarded an Indian merchant vessel and landed in the Indian port Muziris. There he learned an ancient martial arts as well as local healing techniques. The tribes had further instructed him to board from there, Indian vessels that traveled to further east. He boards one and reaches the land unknown to greeks, called China.

He finds out that the egyptian tribe were actually a chinese diaspora. He finds a similar tribe there. There he gets training in chinese martial arts as well as herbology. From them, he learns that the apocalyptic myth of their sister tribe actually consists of a demon who is all skilled in all arts as well as dark magic. Therefore, his final task was to travel to the Himalayas and learn 'the secrets of mind' and magic from Indian sophists. However, his fellow chinese merchants, who traveled with him to china meets him again and warns him not to take road to himalayas. There, they said, duelled a tribe called Scythians, who were barbaric, cannibals, and who used to drink human blood and piss. He further learned from the chinese that the mythical demon they speak of was actually a Scythian who lived many years ago.

So our guy was convinced that he was learning all these for pretty much nothing, as what he was going to face was a mythical demon. Moreover, the magic and the mind-arts he was asked to learn wasn't really demonstrable when there was no demon. So he deemed the journey to Himalayas too risky and unworthy of his time. Thus he returned to south-India, Muziris and from there, traveled back to Egypt. There he lied to them that he had learned everything. Tribesmen were supremely pleased and subsequently, through a ritual, elevated him as the "Gatekeeper".

However, during the after-ritual feast, he learned terrible truths; the demonic scythian's body was preserved using ancient potions and he had apparently acquired a technique where he can project his mind and soul into any point in time. According to tribesmen, all the evil in the world, whether of the past, or of the future were caused by this Scythian. The Gatekeeper, thus also should learn this mind technique from Indian sophists, because he should duel the demon whichever time he appears at. The gatekeeper is then put to a trance, and his body is preserved in a potion. If the Gatekeeper loses his battle with the demon and gets killed, then the body rots and the potion turns bloody, into a stinky acid. It then melts the tomb-box and that is when the tribe seeks next gatekeeper. This war between demon and gatekeeper will go on for millennia until one dies. Then the dead one gets replaced, and so on.

Shocked, our guy started to confess that he hadn't learned the projection technique so putting him to trance could be suicidal. But it was too late, the tribes had put a paralyzing solution into his drink, and he passed out before he could confess.

Hearing this fascinating, albeit terrible story, the archaeologist couple consoles the greek that it was just a myth and such a demon doesn't exist. But the Greek now believes in everything tribes had told him. He believes all the bad things happened in the world is because of his absence, and Scythian's doing. He decides to set out and find if there are any sophists left in Himalayas so that he could learn the 'mind-skill' and finally confront the scythian.

The second part of this story would include his learning of the secret arts and final confrontation of scythian at various world-tragedies, which all are one way or other, his doing.

How does it seem?
 
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Oct 2016
1,052
Merryland
#18
'A Light in the Forest' did very similar
https://www.amazon.com/Light-Forest...t+in+the+forest&qid=1552330870&s=books&sr=1-1

"When John Cameron Butler was a child, he was captured in a raid on the Pennsylvania frontier and adopted by the great warrrior Cuyloga. Renamed True Son, he came to think of himself as fully Indian. But eleven years later his tribe, the Lenni Lenape, has signed a treaty with the white men and agreed to return their captives, including fifteen-year-old True Son. Now he must go back to the family he has forgotten, whose language is no longer his, and whose ways of dress and behavior are as strange to him as the ways of the forest are to them.'

IIRC it was a movie in the 60s starring the actor who played Danno in Hawaii Five-0
 
May 2013
1,720
The abode of the lord of the north
#19
Ajathashatru this definitely sounds like a winner
maybe title it 'Scythian'
Thanks!
May be we should name it "The Gatekeeper". We can name the sequel where the demon confronts the Greek as "The Scythian". I would also love to develop the scythian's character in the sequel; what he was doing this all for, how is his part justified and how he still needs to be stopped.
 
May 2013
1,720
The abode of the lord of the north
#20
1768 a young boy is taken by the Shawnee and adopted into the tribe, he comes to love the culture and people, soon he is at odds as his two worlds collide.
Cool. You can focus on when the outer world decides the tribe needs to get civilized and they starts intervening in the lives and practices of tribesmen, the boy is absolutely caught-up in the struggle.
 

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