What were Russia's war aims in the Russo-Japanese War?

Futurist

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May 2014
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What did Russia aim to achieve in the event of a Russian victory in the Russo-Japanese War? Did Russia simply want to eliminate Japanese influence in Korea or did it aim for something else?
 

stevev

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Apr 2017
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#2
The two powers had been negotiating for some time. Russia wanted dominance of Manchuria, Korea, and a warm water port. Port Arthur, a year around port, was leased from China and at some point Russia would annex it. Japan offered Russia dominance of Manchuria in exchange for Japanese dominance of Korea. Russia refused and Japan declared war. At this point, you could say Russia's aim was to win the war and get as much as they could. In fact they lost virtually every battle on land and sea. The two finally agreed to third party arbitration and the Treaty of Portsmouth granted Japan a sphere over Korea. Many in Japan wanted more including dominance in Manchuria and reparations. Nevertheless the treaty was signed. Russia got off easy given their bad military performance. Japan even gave Port Arthur back (technically to China) but Russia, I believe, agreed not to annex it. Given the military result, Russia was in no position to try.
 
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Futurist

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May 2014
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SoCal
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The two powers had been negotiating for some time. Russia wanted dominance of Manchuria, Korea, and a warm water port. Port Arthur, a year around port, was leased from China and at some point Russia would annex it. Japan offered Russia dominance of Manchuria in exchange for Japanese dominance of Korea. Russia refused and Japan declared war. At this point, you could say Russia's aim was to win the war and get as much as they could. In fact they lost virtually every battle on land and sea. The two finally agreed to third party arbitration and the Treaty of Portsmouth granted Japan a sphere over Korea. Many in Japan wanted more including dominance in Manchuria and reparations. Nevertheless the treaty was signed. Russia got off easy given their bad military performance. Japan even gave Port Arthur back (technically to China) but Russia, I believe, agreed not to annex it. Given the military result, Russia was in no position to try.
Would Japan have agreed to a north-south partition of Korea with Russia in the absence of war?
 
Oct 2018
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China
#8
Control of Vladivostok (Russia needed a warm water port in the Pacific) and both sides wanted influence over the Korean Peninsula.
To be more specific, Russia was building a railway to the port of Vladivostok and placed massive amount of troops to guard it. Japan claimed they are using the railway as a pretext to amass a invasion force to their territory.
 
Dec 2017
474
Australia
#9
Control of Vladivostok (Russia needed a warm water port in the Pacific) and both sides wanted influence over the Korean Peninsula.
To be more specific, Russia was building a railway to the port of Vladivostok and placed massive amount of troops to guard it. Japan claimed they are using the railway as a pretext to amass a invasion force to their territory.
Although, the Bay around Nakhodka (near Vladivostok) is not frozen, the port itself is frozen in winter. In those days (1905) this was a problem for small ships. Russia wanted in Liaodong Peninsula in Yellow Sea . Control over Korean peninsula too.
 

stevev

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Apr 2017
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Las Vegas, NV USA
#10
Control of Vladivostok (Russia needed a warm water port in the Pacific) and both sides wanted influence over the Korean Peninsula.
To be more specific, Russia was building a railway to the port of Vladivostok and placed massive amount of troops to guard it. Japan claimed they are using the railway as a pretext to amass a invasion force to their territory.
Do you mean Japan wanted control of Vladivostok? As far as Russia goes, Vladivostok is not ice free but can be kept open most winters with ice breakers now, but I'm not sure about at that time. Port Arthur (L├╝shunkou) on the Yellow Sea was leased to Russia by China and was considered a warm water port.
 
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