What's the greatest disaster in European history?

#71
You're from Spain, if I'm not mistaken, so I'm curious why you care so much about Austria-Hungary, having no real connections to it that I can tell?
I suspect his connection is the fact that the Spanish and the Austrian Royal Families are related. Spanish Hapsburgs ruled over that country for a considerable period of time before the Spanish Bourbons ended up on the Throne, and even so, there was considerable intermarriage between the Bourbons, both French and Spanish, and the Hapsburgs, both Austrian and Spanish. Remember that Carlos V (Charles V) was Holy Roman Emperor and King of Spain at the same time.
 
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#74
Wouldn't that be fun, equivalent to the election of Trump (although Trump doesn't actually seem to have caused any real damage to the USA, while Corbyn's antiquated 70s socialism undoubtedly would).
 
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#75
I suspect his connection is the fact that the Spanish and the Austrian Royal Families are related. Spanish Hapsburgs ruled over that country for a considerable period of time before the Spanish Bourbons ended up on the Throne, and even so, there was considerable intermarriage between the Bourbons, both French and Spanish, and the Hapsburgs, both Austrian and Spanish. Remember that Carlos V (Charles V) was Holy Roman Emperor and King of Spain at the same time.
That's what I figured. And it's totally understandable to have a fascination with a country, but his love for A-H sometimes manifests in blind ultranationalism, so I'm curious why he's so attached to it on a seemingly personal level.
 
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That's what I figured. And it's totally understandable to have a fascination with a country, but his love for A-H sometimes manifests in blind ultranationalism, so I'm curious why he's so attached to it on a seemingly personal level.
As to any PERSONAL connection he may have, that I do not know, unless it is an ethnic thing. Maybe his ancestry includes elements of Austro-Germanic background. I suppose the polite thing to do is ask him. If his problem is limited English, I speak fluent Spanish. Perhaps I can help.
 

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#80
You're from Spain, if I'm not mistaken, so I'm curious why you care so much about Austria-Hungary, having no real connections to it that I can tell?
We are talking about European dissasters... and the end of Monarchy was a great dissaster for Europe... About not connections between Monarchy and Spain... I think you know perfectly the link... between Spain and the Monarchy.... a 200 years link!!!! (8 generations)

I lived in CS and CS between 1988 to 1995...or if you prefer in Bohemia and Moravia or if you prefer in the K und K lands...Still I remember the great exhibiton held for one year in Austria ( I can´t remember if it was in 1990 or 1991) commemorating the fruitful alliance of centuries: The Spanish-Austrian Alliance.. the Axis: MADRID- WIEN. When the Emperor was the king of Spain and when the European Power was not in Rome, Paris, London, Berlin, Stockolm or Moskva... but in Madrid and Wien.

I am sure you know this scene (English subtitles):



It was a time Spain and the Empire were joined under the same King-Emperor... and then he split the dominions... for his beloved son: Spain-Flanders-Italy-Indies. For his brother: The Empire. But he ordered Spain and the Empire always allied... because in the Alliance between Madrid and Vienna was the Power... Of course, he was not a Spanish, German, Austrian Nationalist... but an HABSBURG!

I ask to myself how history would have change if Carlos III (Karl III) in 1715 he would have being HRE Kaiser, König von Ungarn und Köning von Spanien und Indien. I guess Frantisek Josef as Kaiser und King Vienna-Budapest-Praha-Madrid. 1914 would have been very different. I think.

Hoch Hoch der Kaiser!

The Monacrhy would have avoided the triple plague of Europe: Nationalism, Communism, Fascism.
 

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