What's with all the Black washing?

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Oct 2018
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It was just a good movie. Get over it. Or more appropriately, get over yourself.

What was? Do you mean "Black Panther"? A classic example of popularity as an inverse measurement of quality. .

I understood the black critic's position on "Green Book" when it was pointed out, but I didn't see it at the time. As a white, non American, I don't always see the racial elements in Hollywood films. That doesn't mean they ain't there.

Black American jobs in the movies? Yep, playing racial stereotypes. shoeshine, maids, waiters, or 'Stepn Fetchit's 'coon' type buffoon.

After winning her academy award, (1939) Hattie McDaniels said something like "I'd rather earn $700 a week playing a maid, than $25 being one"

Stepn Fetchit

 
Dec 2009
969
UK
And there we go folks! Mr Identity Politics just tossed the race card because I got the last name Johnson and Jordan mixed up.

And you wonder why I slam you for be a race baiter. :lol:
I was taking the mick, you left yourself wide open I couldn't resist.

Basically laughing at you tripping over your clown feet every 5 mins, don't get startled though, I'm not accusing you of anything.

Your on edge enough as it is, I don't want to do anything that will tip you over.
 

History Chick

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Jun 2010
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What was? Do you mean "Black Panther"? A classic example of popularity as an inverse measurement of quality. .
What is the point in discussing anything with you when you refuse to acknowledge that anyone can have a legitimate, valid opinion that differs from yours? Have you even seen the movie? Nope, probably not, so you really can’t determine whether it’s any good or not. You’ve prejudged it without even giving it a chance. Such prejudice is a pointless thing to argue with.
 
Oct 2018
1,209
Adelaide south Australia
What is the point in discussing anything with you when you refuse to acknowledge that anyone can have a legitimate, valid opinion that differs from yours? Have you even seen the movie? Nope, probably not, so you really can’t determine whether it’s any good or not. You’ve prejudged it without even giving it a chance. Such prejudice is a pointless thing to argue with.
Sorry you feel that way.

I reserve the right t to disagree when I think a position is incorrect or presents arguments not supported by by reason.or proof. You don't like that, feel free not to read my posts.

Yes, I have seen Black Panther, and thought it was very second rate. Have also seen " Green Book",which I thought was fine, one of the better films i've seen recently.

Hacksaw Ridge ; was a good film, strong cast.

The Star Wars movies; The Firsts Three, fantastic, second three, not so much. Since Disney took over; watchable and forgettable

My rule of thumb for movies; if I'm still thinking about it a few days later, it is usually because it got me thinking.


Yep, opinionated old fart. I assure you I am not this way to intentionally annoy you or anyone else.

I have no problem being corrected or disagreed with, as long as you can support your argument. Sometimes I will argue the point, usually only once.at that time I will concede or agree. to differ.

You are 100% entitled , not to like my posts. It is not my intention to annoy or offend anyone, although I'm sure I do..
 

Ancientgeezer

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Nov 2011
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I just watched (on TV) the film "Gods of Egypt"--it was real rubbish, but then so is a lot of stuff. It passed me by at the time, but it seems that there was a big row at the time that the cast featured mainly Anglo-Saxon actors (if you can count a Danish-Pole and a Scot as Anglo-Saxon). Now, all but a couple of characters were Egyptian gods who took human form from time so their ethnicity should have been moot, but even the single black (bantu) African-American actor was decried as being a "magic-negro" stereotype. The incredibly exotic-looking Cambodian-French actress who played the Goddess of Love, Hathor, looked pretty fine to me though.
As the film was fantasy and wasn't really about modern or even historical Egypt one wonders what the fuss was actually about and the answer is simple--a group of people want more work for black Afro-American actors and actresses, whether or not they are right for the role--or can even act.
 
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all of Troy is a BBC production; it's going to include non-white actors by default. Same thing with Dr. Who in the past and like Dr. Who, Fall of Troy isn't historical or meant to be accurate. Honestly the movie "Troy" would be your best bet for any kind of historical accuracy.
Troy is based on greek mythology and on historical event located in Greece. Greeks are white, not black


Black, or at least non-white soldiers and settlers did exist in Britannia. There were Berbers stationed on Hadrian's Wall and the graves of Syrians and North Africans in England.
There are no reference of black soldier in Britain. Maybe they existed, but nobody mentioned them. Berber legionaries stationed in Britain, but berbers are white


The only odd-one out is Hannibal and I don't really know enough about this "fake documentary" to comment, other than Hannibal's ethnicity has always been a debated topic.

There are no debate among scholars about the skin of Hannibal. It's only black afrocentrist who come to claim his black root. All statues, Mosaics, writing about Hannibal describe him as what we can call a caucasian man.



But to answer to Op. I would say that black don't have an interesting history/culture, this is the reason why leftist like backwashing important white figures.
 
Dec 2018
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Cheyenne
Troy is based on greek mythology and on historical event located in Greece. Greeks are white, not black




There are no reference of black soldier in Britain. Maybe they existed, but nobody mentioned them. Berber legionaries stationed in Britain, but berbers are white





There are no debate among scholars about the skin of Hannibal. It's only black afrocentrist who come to claim his black root. All statues, Mosaics, writing about Hannibal describe him as what we can call a caucasian man.



But to answer to Op. I would say that black don't have an interesting history/culture, this is the reason why leftist like backwashing important white figures.
And a leftist like me will one day see racist fascist scum like you hung and that will be the end of your glorious history.
 

sculptingman

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Oct 2009
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I take issue with everyone of your points.

Firstly the "reason" for all this is the push for diversity is hot topic among the Left Wing of the world who have pretty much taken over our media industry, millennial's in particular born in the 90's and 2000 are starting to creep into job roles that control what we watch and have influenced the leaning left seniors ........ we're being spoon fed this as agenda.

Now firstly as a half white / half arabic man I have zero problem with more representation, I won't even watch films like "Gods of Egypt" white washing is over, there's no excuse for it anymore, this isn't the 60's.

However the following you mentioned ............

Superman - "Superman is an alien from another planet. He's not human. He could have skinny-silver skin and green hair if the writers really wanted Kryptonians like that"
But they didn't ......... and 50 years of comics have him depicted as Clark Kent and to CB fans he is visually recognizable.
Either keep to the source material or don't call it Superman simple as that, unless you've been a comic book reader you wouldn't understand and in all fairness ......... not qualified to hold an opinion as the whole industry is only here because of comic book readers, both today and historically.

Fall of Troy - Another PC driven ridiculous depiction, the Left rob one minority for another, instead of showing a Greek they insert a black man for giggles and controversy because to them and their racially selfish views the world is Black & White, as someone who is neither I find their views of someone with White privilege who treat black people like a University subject rather than people.
This is why I also haven't and won't watch this program, I don't want a spoonful of politics with my entertainment and I won't rob one minority for another just to troll the Right.
A black man in Greece is likely to be a slave, this is just facts, Achilles is supposed to be Greek of standing as far as I recall, a noble, a man in charge of the Myrmidons how is an African in ancient Greece going to be a Greek noble?
Its just not authentic.

Hannibal's ethnicity is not "hot debate" .......... I'd bet my house he is a North African of native Berber / Moorish stock same as all the other Carthage majority.
Actually- if the media were controlled by leftists- then brexit could not have passed and Trump would not have been elected.
In point of fact, the media is controlled by massive corporations who have only ONE agenda- dividing public opinion and the hoi polloi into squabbling factions that are too busy yelling at and hating each other over meaningless wedge imbecilities that they can not form the cultural nor political consensus to Vote against the rise of the new aristocracy of kleptocrats.

You are being played like a calliope- the media gives equal attention to LGBTQ agendas AND the backlash against those agendas. They kowtow to Political correctness and identity politics AND they kowtow to right wing reactions to political correctness. They flood your news feed with every incendiary topic you have demonstrated you just can't resist clicking on, while feeding an entirely different menu of outrage to every other splinter group they can identify.

Hollywood get dutifully flogged for not giving blacks roles and awards, and so they respond by proving their embrace of diversity with a bunch of pandering.


The media is serving up division and distraction and the dissipation of cultural cohesion, so that folks in the democracies can no longer look at their neighbors as their fellows- but only as their enemies.
Here in the States they have convinced the people to distrust government By the people. Convinced a good many to prefer a russian despot ran the country, rather than a fellow american who might be slightly more liberal in their worldview.

Guys and gals- stop falling for the con.
Pay attention to what the media is NOT covering at all. Corporate greed. The graft of wealth world wide trying to grift every dollar the working class might ever manage to save or earn.
The perpetual state of war over made up issues. The decline of the middle class because democracies no longer can ask the super rich to pay their fair share.

Don't let yourself be distracted by the attention paid, on purpose, to the jingling keys that annoy you most... They just want you to hate your countrymen- so you won't even think to vote to curb their avarice.

Today- the Senate majority leader of the US stated that the desire of Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia to have equal representation in Congress was" Full Blown Socialism".
This is the death of democracy.

Democracy is being strangled by the devices that are figuring out what outrages you, and then feeding that to you until you can not longer reason, nor have compassion for your neighbors.
 

Angelica

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Dec 2011
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Angel City
Troy is based on greek mythology and on historical event located in Greece. Greeks are white, not black




There are no reference of black soldier in Britain. Maybe they existed, but nobody mentioned them. Berber legionaries stationed in Britain, but berbers are white





There are no debate among scholars about the skin of Hannibal. It's only black afrocentrist who come to claim his black root. All statues, Mosaics, writing about Hannibal describe him as what we can call a caucasian man.



But to answer to Op. I would say that black don't have an interesting history/culture, this is the reason why leftist like backwashing important white figures.
Who wrote many of the historical accounts??. Put it out there and let the people decide whether they support it or not. It may not be factual nonetheless entertaining to watch from another perspective.

If individuals did not question a flat earth we would be ignorant to fact it is round.
 
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