Which borderline European countries do you consider as European?

Which of these countries do you see as European?:


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May 2018
233
Poland
#1
I added also Russia because - although its origins are European - today most of its territory is located outside of Europe:

- Russia
- Kazakhstan
- Georgia
- Armenia
- Azerbaijan
- Turkey
- Cyprus
- Northern Cyprus
- Malta
- Israel

Edit: If possible, can some moderator edit the poll and add also two more options to it - Abkhazia and South Ossetia?
 
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Solidaire

Ad Honorem
Aug 2009
5,499
Athens, Greece
#5
Northern Cyprus is not a country, recognized as such only by Turkey.

It is the occupied territory of Cyprus, the only country in the island.
 
May 2018
233
Poland
#6
Northern Cyprus is not a country, recognized as such only by Turkey.

It is the occupied territory of Cyprus, the only country in the island.
I was hesitating whether to add it or not. Same with Abkhazia and South Ossetia. I did not add Abkhazia and South Ossetia because they used to be Georgian and are Russia's puppets now - and we already have both Georgia and Russia in the poll.

But Northern Cyprus has been de facto independent for a longer time.
 
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kandal

Ad Honorem
Aug 2015
2,737
USA
#7
When one says European what one implies is Western European, from a cultural point of view. So none of the countries mentioned can be considered. The same goes for Eastern European countries too.
 
May 2018
233
Poland
#8
When one says European what one implies is Western European, from a cultural point of view.
What does Portugal and Scotland have in common - from a cultural point of view?

What is this "Western European" culture that includes both Portugal and Scotland?

Or Spain and Iceland? Or Switzerland and Ireland - what do they have in common?
 
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Solidaire

Ad Honorem
Aug 2009
5,499
Athens, Greece
#9
I was hesitating whether to add it or not. Same with Abkhazia and South Ossetia. I did not add Abkhazia and South Ossetia because they used to be Georgian and are Russia's puppets now - and we already have both Georgia and Russia in the poll.

But Northern Cyprus has been de facto independent for a longer time.
Yes, independent as much as occupied territories are. There is a large Turkish force still there, it is essentially a Turkish protectorate. Not being controlled by the country it belongs to is not equal to being a country of its own.
 
#10
Yes, independent as much as occupied territories are. There is a large Turkish force still there, it is essentially a Turkish protectorate. Not being controlled by the country it belongs to is not equal to being a country of its own.
It is populated by Turkish-speaking (not Greek-speaking) Cypriots as well.

In general it's sufficiently different to include it as another option in the poll.

I should have included Abkhazia and South Ossetia too, but I just forgot.
 

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