Which countries expelled and/or killed members of minority groups en masse after they acquired independence?

Maki

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Jan 2017
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Republika Srpska
The Turks themselves have different opinions on the matter. Some say that the modern republic was idd a completely new entity without any ties with the empire of the past / others claim that it is exactly the same state and what happened was a change of govn system from monarchy to republic.
Oh sure, but during Ataturk's time the Ottomans were not presented in a positive light which is understandable. The Ottomans were Ataturk's enemies.
 
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Larrey

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Sep 2011
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The Turks themselves have different opinions on the matter. Some say that the modern republic was idd a completely new entity without any ties with the empire of the past / others claim that it is exactly the same state and what happened was a change of govn system from monarchy to republic. EDIT: It's worth to mention that the Ottoman government wasnt abolished when the Republic was found / it considered the new parliament in Ankara as enemy and raised the Army of the Caliphate to defeat nationalist forces of the National Assembly in Ankara.
It's clearly still unresolved. The AK Party today certainly in some ways have re-appropriated aspects of the Ottomans. And Istanbul was clearly not a favourite of the Atatürk republic – to cosmopolitic to "Ottoman", for that – hence Ankara as the capital, unsullied by all that.
 

Kevinmeath

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May 2011
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Navan, Ireland
The Protestant population of Southern Ireland fell markedly post Irish independence.
However it certainly wasn't government policy and the reason for it is debated.
 
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Area Ocean
Arabs and Indians were expelled from Zanzibar after independence and union with Tanganyika.
Well they invaded and made it a slave port so I wouldn't say that was an example fitting the OP. There wasnt mass murder either, though they did enough to get them to flee.
 
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Futurist

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May 2014
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SoCal
The mass killings of members of the Igbo ethnicity in Northern Nigeria during 1966-67 could be an example.
Good example.

The native population of Uruguay, the Charruas.
Interesting; I'll have to go and look that one up.

An important nuance to make is that they massacred about 3000-5000 French people which included white French as well as French Creoles, but they didn't massacre the "white population"... They left the Spanish and British alone, who sided with the Haitians during the war, and stood by and witnessed the massacres, and the Haitians also left the German and Polish settlers alone, who were actually given citizenship. Not that it's an excuse for genocide or anything, and Jean-Jacques Dessalines definitely made a foolish mistake, but without some context, your one line sentence on the massacre sounds, well, out of context. The Haitians lost 200.000 people in the war, which came on the back of generations of a particularly cruel form of slavery, where slaves were simply worked to death, importing as many as 20.000 slaves a year, because mortality rates were as high as 50%, in addition to systematic torture and rape. It was one of the most profitable French colonies in the world (sugar, coffee and indigo was big business)...
Fair enough. I should have stated "white French and French Creole population" here rather than "white population" in general.

Also, interestingly enough, similar radicalization effects might have been in place in Algeria. As in, 132 years of French rule and oppression combined with an extremely brutal eight-year-long war (with brutality being highly notable on both sides, with French torture and Algerian FLN terrorist attacks) might have significantly radicalized the Algerian FLN and thus caused them to insist on the expulsion of Algeria's entire pied-noir population after Algeria acquired its independence. It's a huge shame, IMHO. IMHO, the best move would have been to allow the pieds-noirs to stay--at least if they would have agreed to take a loyalty oath to Algeria and renounced all of their other citizenships.
 

Futurist

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May 2014
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Turkey with Armenians and Greeks.
Technically speaking, though, Turkey was the Ottoman Empire's legal successor, no? I mean, both of them were Turkish-dominated states.

As I've mentioned on here before this was specifically most (not all) of the white French people. Poles and Germans weren't harmed and were even counted as Haitian ciitzens.
Thanks for clarifying this part!

They weren't and aren't a minority in the Nigerian context. Although in Northern Nigeria specifically I guess they could be seen that way.
Yep.

Well, it is called Turkish War of Independence. And Ataturk certainly considered the Ottoman Empire a rotten institution that became a pawn of the foreigners so in a sense, yes, the Turkish Nationalists saw the Ottomans as oppressors.
Wasn't this war of independence in part against the Anglo-Franco-Greeks as opposed to against the Ottoman Caliphate?

The Protestant population of Southern Ireland fell markedly post Irish independence.
However it certainly wasn't government policy and the reason for it is debated.
Interesting.

Well they invaded and made it a slave port so I wouldn't say that was an example fitting the OP. There wasnt mass murder either, though they did enough to get them to flee.
To be fair, though, whites engaged in an awful lot of oppression in South Africa and yet the South African blacks didn't make it a state policy to encourage mass white emigration from South Africa--did they? Why was Zanzibar different in regards to its Arabs and Indians?
 

Futurist

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Oh sure, but during Ataturk's time the Ottomans were not presented in a positive light which is understandable. The Ottomans were Ataturk's enemies.
Boris Yeltsin was Mikhail Gorbachev's enemy and yet the state that Yeltsin led was recognized as the legal successor to the state that Gorbachev led.
 

Futurist

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Arabs and Indians were expelled from Zanzibar after independence and union with Tanganyika.
What was the motivation for this expulsion and did Tanganyika itself see a similar expulsion after independence?