Why did the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991?

royal744

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Jul 2013
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San Antonio, Tx
the media and schools keep quiet about that the USSR was destroyed by a unified massive effort on the part of Western states in order to set an example that no country should ever stand up to them..
“...a unified massive effort on the part of Western states...”. Really? You have even the slightest proof of this? Show me what you’ve got.
 
Dec 2017
473
Australia
Three leaders of Russian, Ukrainian and Belarusian republics and two prime ministers of Ukraine and Belarus gathered together in Belovezha to discuss crude oil supplies which Ukraine and Belarus didn't have. They ended signing Belovezha Accords in Belovezha near Brest (Belarus ) on the border with Poland. Once the accords were signed by Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich each is the leader in his republic with Gorbachev becoming irrelevant , as he was president of USSR and USSR no longer existed.

Struggle for power in turbulent times?

Belavezha Accords - Wikipedia
 

royal744

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Jul 2013
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San Antonio, Tx
It could be understood in a myriad of ways, but I don't want to stray into the dangerous area of politics. I was talking about the social movement that occurred in California, since you're not from California and may not be from the persuasion that supports it I'm not really at liberty to discuss your opinion of it. This thread is about Soviet Russia lets not go off on some other wild goose chase.



No, no, no and no refer to my post as per the previous page. The problem with "socialism" is what Americans think socialism means which has nothing to do with socialism from a European perspective. Please get on the same page about what socialism is and entails before you get your wires crossed again. The problem with Americans thanks to McCarthyism is that you have conflated the understanding of what socialism is.

The issue doesn't represent the reality. The countries where the worlds happiest people are said to live are either socialist states or largely social democracies, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Norway, Denmark, until recently Germany and the UK, although I'm not sure what to think of what is going on in the UK and Germany at the moment from a society perspective.

The problem with Americans is that the ailment of McCarthyism is so strong they know not what the term socialism even means. They conflate it with communism which has nothing to do with socialism or for that matter Marxism because of the widespread social ailment of McCarthyism that causes them in turn to not even remotely understand what socialism actually is.
Do please stop with this McCarthy nonsense. He’s been dead for more than half a century. Ask 90% of the people who McCarthy is and they couldn’t pick him out of a police “line-up of one”. McCarthy may mean something to you, but he doesn’t mean anything to the vast majority of Americans who have no idea who he is.
 

royal744

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Jul 2013
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San Antonio, Tx
in fact Yeltsyn was a CIA shill,
Do you have even the slightest bit of proof about this or is it just an assertion plucked out of the air?

however, even this cannot explain why did they decide to destroy the Soviet Bloc, because the dismal result was that from then on the international trust has been undermined for good. CCCP was a state created by the entire world and in accordance with scientific approach to economics and society, as opposed to wild Capitalist practices of the West that had kept the world in danger of annihilation.
The only “wild....practices that keep the world in danger of annihilation” were those ‘praciced’ in the old Soviet Union....Russia bankrupted itself, then turned around and tried to blame the West because, you know, blaming someone else takes the onus off of the real culprits..

CCCP was destroyed and thus world balance has gone completely; the West has of course postponed its own doom for a decade or two, but right now it chokes on its bloated obligations, being unable to fulfill them, meanwhile there's no one left to rob already... the West is trying to rob the Ukraine right now, but this is ridiculous.
I find your assertions original and somewhat unintentionally humorous. If you’re waiting for the West to implode, you might have a very long wait indeed.
 

royal744

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Jul 2013
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San Antonio, Tx
not at all, CCCP was bound to carry on the way China did, but something went wrong.
Something did definitely “go wrong” but instead of laying the blame on the homegrown thieves who basically “stole” the Russian economy out from under the noses of its own citizens, you feel the need to flail around and blame people outside of your borders. Do you realize just how clueless you sound? You cannot heal yourself if you cannot identify the problem.
 
Aug 2010
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Welsh Marches
"CCCP was a state created by the entire world and in accordance with scientific approach to economics and society, as opposed to wild Capitalist practices of the West that had kept the world in danger of annihilation."

I love this, this is why electorates in western Europe and North America were so eager that their nations should become like the USSR! They all wanted wild capitalism to be swept away in favour of scientific Marxism.