Why didn't Britain and France enter the Russo-Japanese War?

Jun 2018
504
New Hampshire
#61
Shared interests alone do not make an alliance. Or even occasional mutual action on those shred interests. It needs ome comon understanding and working relationship niether of which existsed. The Kaiser was regard as an unreliable lose cannon.

And with Kaiser Bill I think it;s hard to be certain possible German actions in advent of Britain joining the war. Loose cannon.
German intervention would not have been overly difficult. The Germans had forces stationed in both China and in the Bismarck Archipelago. In order to save face after making a public pronouncement of support, the kaiser likely would have felt obligated to provide at least some military support in the event the British intervened in support of Japan. Kaiser Wilhelm would have feared German inaction to have been interpreted as weakness and indecisiveness after publicly announcing he would support Russia in the even Britain intervened. The German fleet in the Bismark Archipelago would have likely engaged the British and Japanese off the Chinese coast while German army units in China would have assisted the Russians in land operations.
 

pugsville

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Oct 2010
9,341
#62
German intervention would not have been overly difficult. The Germans had forces stationed in both China and in the Bismarck Archipelago. In order to save face after making a public pronouncement of support, the kaiser likely would have felt obligated to provide at least some military support in the event the British intervened in support of Japan. Kaiser Wilhelm would have feared German inaction to have been interpreted as weakness and indecisiveness after publicly announcing he would support Russia in the even Britain intervened. The German fleet in the Bismark Archipelago would have likely engaged the British and Japanese off the Chinese coast while German army units in China would have assisted the Russians in land operations.
But vacialiation and indecision was the very hallmark of KaiserBill sure he worried baout appearing so, but he would blow hot and cold pretty quickly and often vacilaite and be indicisive.
Worrying about appearing vascialting and indecisive does not necessarily lead to quick decisive action, in fact often leads to vacillation and indecision.

I doubt the German Navy would be keen to throw away some ships in lost cause.
 
Jun 2018
504
New Hampshire
#63
But vacialiation and indecision was the very hallmark of KaiserBill sure he worried baout appearing so, but he would blow hot and cold pretty quickly and often vacilaite and be indicisive.
Worrying about appearing vascialting and indecisive does not necessarily lead to quick decisive action, in fact often leads to vacillation and indecision.

I doubt the German Navy would be keen to throw away some ships in lost cause.
On paper, the Russians should have won that war. While the Japanese were certainly a formidable power, the only reason Russia performed so poorly was due to incompetent military leadership. The war was hardly considered a lost cause, and in fact most of the European powers, Germany included, believed Russia would emerge victorious. A military intervention by the German Pacific Fleet would not have been inconceivable.
 

pugsville

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Oct 2010
9,341
#64
On paper, the Russians should have won that war. While the Japanese were certainly a formidable power, the only reason Russia performed so poorly was due to incompetent military leadership. The war was hardly considered a lost cause, and in fact most of the European powers, Germany included, believed Russia would emerge victorious. A military intervention by the German Pacific Fleet would not have been inconceivable.
The conext is once the Russians were losing. There was no real motaviation to inetrevene when everyone thought the Russians were a certainty to win.
 
Jun 2018
504
New Hampshire
#65
The conext is once the Russians were losing. There was no real motaviation to inetrevene when everyone thought the Russians were a certainty to win.
And the motivation was in the context of Great Britain entering the war on the side of Japan. If that happened, it is likely Germany would have opened hostilities against Britain in support of Russia.
 

pugsville

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Oct 2010
9,341
#66
And the motivation was in the context of Great Britain entering the war on the side of Japan. If that happened, it is likely Germany would have opened hostilities against Britain in support of Russia.
And Britian imposes a blockade of Germany chases the German fleet and merchant ships from the seas. German tarde suffers horribly and Britian and Japan take all of Germans now undefended and unsupported colonies. The Large German army does nothing as it cannot do anything. The German navy was not even close to ready to the British in 1905.
It;s highly likely the German militarily would not want this conflict.
 
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sparky

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Jan 2017
4,786
Sydney
#70
For 1905 it actually was a brave effort , the battle was a bit of a shock for everyone
the Europeans were mixed in their views , a blundering quasi European power bested by "yellow "people
there was much food for thought there
Japan certainly got a few notches on it's belt