Why didn't Montenegro immediately secede from Yugoslavia like the other Yugoslav SRs did?

Jun 2012
7,406
Malaysia
#21
The 'Let's See How It Goes' strategy, I would call it. Montenegro is small. It had to play a pragmatic game. Nobody knew at first how the Yugoslav War was actually going to turn out, eventually. What if Serbia had somehow eventually managed to crush both Croatia & Bosnia-Herzegovina. It would have made an awkward scenario for Montenegro, having had then to climb down & backtrack from a hasty secession declaration. Even Macedonia Skopje took their time well enough before making the final call.
 
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May 2014
20,960
SoCal
#22
The 'Let's See How It Goes' strategy, I would call it. Montenegro is small. It had to play a pragmatic game. Nobody knew at first how the Yugoslav War was actually going to turn out, eventually. What if Serbia had somehow eventually managed to crush both Croatia & Bosnia-Herzegovina. It would have made an awkward scenario for Montenegro, having to climb down & backtrack from a hasty secession declaration. Even Macedonia Skopje took their time well enough before making the final call.
That's probably a good point--though it's worth noting that Macedonia seceded in 1992--as in, in the same year that Bosnia did.
 
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Jan 2017
3,386
Republika Srpska
#23
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    Maki

Macedonian independence referendum always seemed a bit iffy. Here is the question that was presented to the people:
"Are you for a sovereign and independent state of Macedonia, with a right to enter into any alliance with sovereign states of Yugoslavia?"
It was technically an independence referendum, but also clearly presented a special clause that would still tie Macedonia to Yugoslavia. It would be interesting to find out how many people that voted YES actually wanted a fully independent Macedonia with no ties with Yugoslavia.
 
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Jan 2017
3,386
Republika Srpska
#24
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    Maki

The 'Let's See How It Goes' strategy, I would call it. Montenegro is small. It had to play a pragmatic game. Nobody knew at first how the Yugoslav War was actually going to turn out, eventually. What if Serbia had somehow eventually managed to crush both Croatia & Bosnia-Herzegovina. It would have made an awkward scenario for Montenegro, having had then to climb down & backtrack from a hasty secession declaration. Even Macedonia Skopje took their time well enough before making the final call.
This has a false premise that Montenegro wanted secession all along and just had to wait and see the result of the war. But that is not true. People of Montenegro in 1991-92 clearly wanted to remain part of Yugoslavia.
 
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May 2014
20,960
SoCal
#25
Macedonian independence referendum always seemed a bit iffy. Here is the question that was presented to the people:
"Are you for a sovereign and independent state of Macedonia, with a right to enter into any alliance with sovereign states of Yugoslavia?"
It was technically an independence referendum, but also clearly presented a special clause that would still tie Macedonia to Yugoslavia. It would be interesting to find out how many people that voted YES actually wanted a fully independent Macedonia with no ties with Yugoslavia.
A right to enter means that Macedonia has a right to decide whether or not it actually wants to enter such an alliance, though. Also, an alliance is different from a union; NATO countries are part of an alliance and yet remain independent.

Also, I wonder just how many people in Ukraine wanted genuine independence in 1991 as opposed to wanting their cake and eating it too--as in, having independence and then joining a new confederation or federation of ex-USSR countries.
 
Jan 2017
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Republika Srpska
#26
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    Maki

A right to enter means that Macedonia has a right to decide whether or not it actually wants to enter such an alliance, though. Also, an alliance is different from a union; NATO countries are part of an alliance and yet remain independent.
Sure, but it presented such an option. It was not simply "Do you want an independent and sovereign Macedonia?".
 
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