Why didn't the Americans & Brits produce so powerful long-range ww2 heavy bomber like the ME-264 strategic bomber?

royal744

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All of my sources are in the references of Wikipedia , in the articles of the given weapons, where you can examine and compare the characteristics of British WW2 weapons in their own articles and references.
It is very simple task.

I see only frustrated blah blah. Hey man! Be more concrete!

Okay, can you name a British fighter aircraft, which was better caracteristics than ME-262? Than name it, and we will examine their characteristics.

I am waiting for the name of British intercontinental WW2 bomber. Than name it, and we will examine their characteristics.

I stated that Tiger was a better tank than any of the British/allied power's tanks. IF you know better than name it, and we will examine their characteristics.

I'm eager to hear about British WW2 rocket technology. Maybe British had better rocked than V2. Than name it, and we will examine their characteristics.

My statement: Type XI German submarine was the most advanced submarine of the WW2. Maybe there was an even better British one. Than name it, and we will examine their characteristics.


Your fallacy is personal incredulity: Your logical fallacy is personal incredulity
Isn’t it remarkable that the Allies won WW2? Their equipment was SO bad and SO inferior to the German stuff, I can only assume that the Germans really wanted the Allies to win.

Anent the ME262, it was the first operational combat jet, although by the time the ME262 came along, the British jet fighter was flying as well. The difference was that the ME262 was rushed into production because it was much ore urgent for the Germans to do so. Parts and quality problems meant that the ME262’s engines had to be changed after short operational times because the Germans lacked the resources to build jet engines that lasted.

As for the German submarines, the later versions were also rushed into production for obvious reasons and didn’t do much better because detection technology and closing of the mid-Atlantic air gap meant they had no place to hide at that point in the war.

Technologically, the Germans were quite good, less good at working through the intense rivalries among Nazi leaders, but in the main, I would say that British technology was every bit the Germans’ equal and then some. The word “ASDIC” should tell you all you needed to know about why the Kriegsmarine was defeated at sea. Oh, and, by the way, the snorkel was a Dutch invention, not a German one.
 
"My statement: Type XI German submarine was the most advanced submarine of the WW2. Maybe there was an even better British one. Than name it, and we will examine their characteristics."

Gato, Balao, and Tench class boats were the best of WW2. Former USS TUSK (Balao class) and USS CUTLASS (Tench class) were still in service with the Taiwanese Navy as of 2007(!).

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royal744

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Hey man, you did not notice that we are speaking not only about simple strategic bombers, but intercontinental bombers? Nor the British nor the Americans had it in WW2. The race for the development of the first intercontinental bomber was won by Germany, similar like the race for the first operational Jet aircraft (ME 262) Which was 2times faster than British ww2 era meteor. Yes, I call it superiority in engineering. How else can you call these facts?
Not true. Your posts are now being fact checked more closely.
 

royal744

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It is 100% Meaningless that it was never brought to operation , due to the allied bombings which destroyed all the prototypes and the factory facilities. The prototype test proved that it can make 15000 km. Being to only purely piston engine powered intercontinental bomber of the world. Americans and British could not design even piston-engine powered itercontinental bomber test models after the war. They could reach intercontinental range with additional jet engines only.

Who cares about the war? The point was the engineering marvel.

That'"s why I said, WW2 was the fight between Quality and Quantity( numerical suoperiority.)

Useless? Because allied powers bombed the facility and the three prototypes?

I am not fascinated with the technology of allied powers, because the only really relevant allied power technological contribution was the American atomic bomb, which were solved mostly by refugee top scientists, who were neither American nor British.
Are there extant videos of this German marvel in flight? Are there any extant “after action reports” demonstrating the superiority of this so-called Axis bomber n encounters with Allied fighters? No? Then what are you talking about? You take an imaginary “bomber” and allege it has these supernatural powers and abilities even if the aircraft never even reached serial production.

German scientists, I might just add were defeated by Allied scientists. Well, “crushed” might be as better word.
 

Belgarion

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"My statement: Type XI German submarine was the most advanced submarine of the WW2. Maybe there was an even better British one. Than name it, and we will examine their characteristics."

Gato, Balao, and Tench class boats were the best of WW2. Former USS TUSK (Balao class) and USS CUTLASS (Tench class) were still in service with the Taiwanese Navy as of 2007(!).

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You are confusing the effectiveness of the USN submarine campaign against Japan with the technical capabilities of the boats themselves. The Type XXI U Boat was by far the most advanced submarine of the war. Although it suffered from quality control problems, a lack of numbers and a lack of experienced crew to make full use of its potential it influenced all submarine design in the immediate post war period.
 

royal744

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It was not me who created this video :) But you are right that the author can be considered a fan of the Nazis. But it does not matter, this is a historical forum and we can post here (I think) even Goebbels videos if there is an interesting plane.

But - You asked why the Allies did not build a long-range bomber. In my opinion, the more important question is why did the Germans build? How many such bombers were needed to destroy the US industry? Did the Germans have escort fighters of such a large range?
Yeah, this is so dumb. Without long range fighters to protect their notional long-range bomber, this plane is an Atlantic Island waiting to happen - until it sinks, of course.
 

royal744

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Some say big, four-engine bombers would be useful against Britain. Others say that He 111 was enough, and Ju 88 was more universal than a large bomber. It's an old discussion.



And that's the most important thing! I heard that even the Ar 234 "bomber" could not work effectively due to lack of fuel. And thousands of large bombers flying over the US?
And, this new bomber, after it supposedly delivered its bomb load, had sufficient fuel to turn around and fly back to Germany? Or was it planning to stop in Florida and wait for Walt Disney to build Disneyworld?
 
You are confusing the effectiveness of the USN submarine campaign against Japan with the technical capabilities of the boats themselves. The Type XXI U Boat was by far the most advanced submarine of the war. Although it suffered from quality control problems, a lack of numbers and a lack of experienced crew to make full use of its potential it influenced all submarine design in the immediate post war period.
Former USS TUSK (Balao class) and USS CUTLASS (Tench class) were still in service with the Taiwanese Navy as of 2007(!).
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