Why fascists took references and symbolism from eastern philosophies? Also, why paganism?

Aug 2013
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There
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Hi. As I get familiar with the theme of fascists and their critic of liberalism, there's one thing that I quite don't understand. Why the search for understanding of eastern schools of thought, such as buddhism and Laozi? Weren't christian references enough? Also, along some authors that inspired fascists such as Julius Evola, why the interest for the occult and paganism?
 
Oct 2012
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#2
Hi. As I get familiar with the theme of fascists and their critic of liberalism, there's one thing that I quite don't understand. Why the search for understanding of eastern schools of thought, such as buddhism and Laozi? Weren't christian references enough? Also, along some authors that inspired fascists such as Julius Evola, why the interest for the occult and paganism?
Many facists were indeed intrested in occultism and eastern philosophies (I am not sure if Evola was a real fascist though). I think that was part of their general anti liberal, anti materialistic and anti rational ethos.Christianity on the hand was seen as way too meek
and propably "jewish" for their tastes.
 
Apr 2017
639
U.S.A.
#4
There was an interest in ancient philosophies from the east at the time (still is to a certain degree). By linking their ideology to ancient and pagan concepts they were distancing themselves from the established order but still linking to something with precedent. If you came up with some new concept that never existed before people would be wary of it but if you link it to something in the past, it suddenly seems mystical and interesting. Christianity was long associated with the established society, the fascists wanted to change things drastically, so they turned back to ancient times for inspiration. By comparing Germany to Germania and the tribes that conquered rome, Hitler could inspire ideas of greatness. Mussolini trying to revive the Roman Empire would make people remember that Italy was once the center of one of the greatest empires ever.
 
Nov 2018
49
Russian Federation
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(still is to a certain degree)
ancient philosophies were, still and will prevail over christian contradictive flat Earth ****. only reason why Europe accepted "God for dummies" philosophy was by force. lot of thinkers died in fires in dark age. Hitler's path was revolution into the future giving new technologies like space flight, television, nuclear weapon, ets.
 

Nemowork

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Jan 2011
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South of the barcodes
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Hi. As I get familiar with the theme of fascists and their critic of liberalism, there's one thing that I quite don't understand. Why the search for understanding of eastern schools of thought, such as buddhism and Laozi? Weren't christian references enough? Also, along some authors that inspired fascists such as Julius Evola, why the interest for the occult and paganism?
There was an idea going around that there used to be a highly evolved civilisation that had broken up, the Germans were one of the surviving strands.

Researching these ancient civilisations was a way of getting back to the pure original civilisation.
 

holoow

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Jun 2012
3,642
Vilnius, Lithuania
#7
Do fascists really knew about Eastern philosophies? Even now, language barrier is a serious problem. I doubt, for example, that foreigners really understand Chinese language ( grammatical constructions etc. ). It`s only happens approximately.
 
Jan 2016
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Collapsed wave
#8
Hi. As I get familiar with the theme of fascists and their critic of liberalism, there's one thing that I quite don't understand. Why the search for understanding of eastern schools of thought, such as buddhism and Laozi? Weren't christian references enough? Also, along some authors that inspired fascists such as Julius Evola, why the interest for the occult and paganism?

The nazi ideology and particularly Hitler based their ideas on Nietzsche, his concept of "God is dead".
God is dead - Wikipedia

The Christian god had to be replaced with a race of super humans, uber mensch, which would transcend the current weak existence. Something like that. They were very anti-christian.
 

Chlodio

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Aug 2016
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By comparing Germany to Germania and the tribes that conquered rome, Hitler could inspire ideas of greatness.
Yes, there was a whole school of historical research along this line. Today we call them the 19th century German Romantics. "Germany is the greatest nation on Earth because only the Germans could defeat the Roman Empire." Naziism was something of a nostalgia movement in Germany that advocated going back to the good old days before the Weimar Republic. Hitler had grown up reading those romantic historians and had really taken it to heart.
 
Nov 2018
49
Russian Federation
#10
christianity history: bans, executions, erasure of ancient knowledge, paedophilia (still exists in Cathlolicism). i am annoyed being told how good that religion is. buddhism has tolerance and critical thinking.
Buddhism encourages the impartial investigation of Nature (an activity referred to as Dhamma-Vicaya in the Pali Canon) — the principal object of study being oneself. Some popular conceptions of Buddhism connect it to discourse regarding evolution, quantum theory, and cosmology
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Buddhism has been described by some as rational and non-dogmatic, and there is evidence that this has been the case from the earliest period of its history,[5] though some have suggested this aspect is given greater emphasis in modern times and is in part a reinterpretation.
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certain commonalities have been cited between scientific investigation and Buddhist thought. Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th Dalai Lama, in a speech at the meeting of the Society for Neuroscience[10], listed a "suspicion of absolutes" and a reliance on causality and empiricism as common philosophical principles shared between Buddhism and science.
Buddhism and science - Wikipedia

Nazis looked for power and power is knowledge.
 

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